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Old 03-20-2010, 08:47 AM
 
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you have to admit that a 6 billion strong, highly educated population brimming with technology and high speed communication would have been more applicable if you want a message to spread rather than choosing some desert backwater populated by goatherds that thought the world was flat eh?
Well, it worked, and without Bill Gates. In 200 years the power of the scimitar spread Islam from India to Spain at the average rate of a battle every other year.
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Old 03-20-2010, 01:25 PM
 
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If the Muslim religion started somewhere in the early 600's AD, my question always has been, what was God Allah doing the rest of the time that the earth had been around?

It just never made a lot fo sense to me how a religion started so late caught on thats all.
muslims believe that islam was always the massage of all prophets , starting with Adam (pbuh) then Noah , abrahm , moses and jesus peace be upon them all and many prophets we know nothing about them are all were sent with the same massage " to worship one God and do rightious" .
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Old 03-20-2010, 01:29 PM
 
Location: East Cleveland
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If the Muslim religion started somewhere in the early 600's AD, my question always has been, what was God Allah doing the rest of the time that the earth had been around?

It just never made a lot fo sense to me how a religion started so late caught on thats all.
the word muslim means one who submits...ones have been submitting to the creator since they were themselves created..we pray to the same god adam did. the term muslim just come from the arabic language in which the quran was reavealed, and allah mean "the one most high" which is basically the same as the hebrew ELOHIM...before 600 ad allah, has sent numerous prophets preaching the same religion of total submission to the "most high" including ibrahim (abraham) nuh (noah), moosa(moses), dawuud(david) solomon, and isa ben maryum( jesus son of mary)....
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Old 03-20-2010, 01:30 PM
 
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^^^^^ peace be upon them also.....
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Old 03-20-2010, 01:31 PM
 
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muslims believe that islam was always the massage of all prophets , starting with Adam (pbuh) then Noah , abrahm , moses and jesus peace be upon them all and many prophets we know nothing about them are all were sent with the same massage " to worship one God and do rightious" .
What did Prophet Adam say that Islam values?
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Old 03-20-2010, 01:36 PM
 
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the word muslim means one who submits.
It does not say to whom submission is made, though. Islam submits to the world, the flesh, and the devil? Islam does not submit to the Christ who died for the sins of the world, whose love demands one's whole life. By that perspective, Islam is more like a rebellion.
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Old 03-20-2010, 01:45 PM
 
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It does not say to whom submission is made, though. Islam submits to the world, the flesh, and the devil? Islam does not submit to the Christ who died for the sins of the world, whose love demands one's whole life. By that perspective, Islam is more like a rebellion.
submission to the one who created jesus, his father in heaven....it is those who worship and "MAN" who has walked amongst this earth that are in rebellion... we follow mulat ibraheem(the way of life that abraham practices he was no idolater) , and it clearly says that in the quran if you ever have enough sense to educate your self before just creating rediculous assertions on a way of life you know nothing of..i know more about your religion that you could ever possibly know about mine.....
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Old 03-20-2010, 01:50 PM
 
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What did Prophet Adam say that Islam values?
the first law was giving to moses aka the torah aka the hebrew bible aka the pentauch aka the old testament of the king james bible aka the 10 commandment and the levitcal laws.....those are islaams values thank you...we follow the same guidlines that god so called "choosen people" the jews follow..were only guilty of bearing witness that the no one is worthy of worship except god and to him alone shall we all return..i since alot of "INTOLERANCE" in your speech..remind yourself of your own relgious values, before bearing false witness to that which you have no knowledge in...
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Old 03-20-2010, 01:50 PM
 
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submission to the one who created jesus, his father in heaven.
Who says that?
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Old 03-20-2010, 01:52 PM
 
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the first law was giving to moses
I asked what Prophet Adam said. Do Muslims have a clue what their first Prophet said?
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