(alcohol) "Khamr" in islam (verses, woman, paradise, heaven)
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Alcohol is part of culture but in my religion we believe in the abstinence of it. It degrades human civilization (as someone stated before). It destroys your liver, your reputation, your values and morals. Would you rather be drunk, make-up smudged, dress ripped at a dinner party, totally hungover the next day unaware of what happened, or come in and out as beautiful as an angel, no reputations demolished and you actually remember the night?
I understand that it's culture for some. I've never had a drop of it but I think it's incredibly immature when I see people getting smashed and drunk. I don't mind if people have it in moderation but when they take it too far...its down-right disgusting.
That's what I personally think-I understand everyone has different opinions and that's the beauty of democracy
Soooo..... you can be either super trashed or sober? I had a glass of wine with dinner last night. I hardly think that makes me a bad person, or will destroy my liver, my reputation or my values and morals.
In fact, a glass of red wine on occasion has been known to promote a healthy heart. And I can almost guarantee that many of the people that you see drunk in a bar would classify themselves as 'religious'.
No doubt you find many of the hostile propaganda against Islam
these are one of them ....
But the events of September learned many Americans of the truth about Islam ....Who knew that Islam is a religion irrelevant to this events ...and by them convert to Islam ....
Oh, great, more proselytizing. So tell me how alcohol in moderation 'degrades' a human. And please don't do it with a Qu'ran quotation. I do my best to deal in facts.
proselytizing is not my responsibility .....
the decision is yours ...
proselytizing or not does not change anything in fact but remain as it is
How do you feel when you find that everything is in the Koran is
linked to studies and researches scientists today .
For that to quote from the Koran why not ?
anyway , you said about Drinking alcohol in moderation ok? But what do you think of his/her behavior after Drinking is it good ?
Furthermore See what is caused by smoking
I'm sure you do not wish to deal with alcohol even if moderately right ?
proselytizing or not does not change anything in fact but remain as it is
How do you feel when you find that everything is in the Koran is
linked to studies and researches scientists today .
For that to quote from the Koran why not ?
anyway , you said about Drinking alcohol in moderation ok? But what do you think of his/her behavior after Drinking is it good ?
Furthermore See what is caused by smoking
I'm sure you do not wish to deal with alcohol even if moderately right ?
imanway
Dude, none of it matters to me. Allah doesn't care if I drink, or smoke, or have gay sex, or run around naked slapping people with a dead fish. Allah doesn't care if I live my life good and moral, or if I'm evil and bad and so very, very naughty. Allah isn't interested in my beard, or my jewelry or that I don't know which way Mecca is. Allah doesn't care about any of this stuff because I was raised on bacon.
i think its weird that its considered "bad" here on earth but in heaven apparently they will have plenty of wine
Quran-(52:17-20): “They will recline (with ease) on thrones arranged in ranks. And We shall marry them to Huris (fair females) with wide lovely eyes.” “There they shall pass from hand to hand a (wine) cup, free from any Laghw….”
Quran-(78: 33-34):“And young full-breasted (mature) maidens of equal age, and a full cup of wine.”
Alcohol is part of culture but in my religion we believe in the abstinence of it. It degrades human civilization (as someone stated before). It destroys your liver, your reputation, your values and morals. Would you rather be drunk, make-up smudged, dress ripped at a dinner party, totally hungover the next day unaware of what happened, or come in and out as beautiful as an angel, no reputations demolished and you actually remember the night?
I understand that it's culture for some. I've never had a drop of it but I think it's incredibly immature when I see people getting smashed and drunk. I don't mind if people have it in moderation but when they take it too far...its down-right disgusting.
That's what I personally think-I understand everyone has different opinions and that's the beauty of democracy
that's very good that you have never had a drop of it
i think its weird that its considered "bad" here on earth but in heaven apparently they will have plenty of wine.
Actually, when the Qur'an is sequenced in the chronological order of its "revelation" you'll note that the proscription against alcohol was a gradual development.
Never let it be said that Allah couldn't change his mind.
Dude, none of it matters to me. Allah doesn't care if I drink, or smoke, or have gay sex, or run around naked slapping people with a dead fish. Allah doesn't care if I live my life good and moral, or if I'm evil and bad and so very, very naughty. Allah isn't interested in my beard, or my jewelry or that I don't know which way Mecca is. Allah doesn't care about any of this stuff because I was raised on bacon.
then Heaven and hell, on any basis be if allah doesn't care all What you said ?
then Heaven and hell, on any basis be if allah doesn't care all What you said ?
What standard of obedience and disobedience here?
Not Allah's.
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