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Old 05-03-2010, 10:22 AM
 
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hi all ....

It is a truly great scenes ...


allah said in Quran "" We will show them Our Signs in the universe, and in their ownselves, until it becomes manifest to them that this (the Qur'n) is the truth. Is it not sufficient in regard to your Lord that He is a Witness over all things? "" Fussilat53



God gave the mind to think of the universe...

But let us once again and reveal the corner of the universe, how it seem

from the outside?


This image that stood in front of it a long time ...

Consider this picture :






This is the cosmic fabric which called it the Quran "knitting" consists of

millions of Cosmic Strings....




Each thread located by thousands of galaxies, each galaxy containing


Mlyaeat stars, and all star is the sun as our sun larger or smaller ...


Now, dear reader: Can you see the earth here (in image above ) ?

The vision of the galaxy is impossible in this picture...


Because every point of it which is a grouping of galaxies containing hundreds.........



<Sigh>


Where are you, O man, in front of this universe? And where you are before

the greatness of God, the Almighty?


All of this universe does not exceed the size of corn before the greatness

of the Almighty Creator? ** it is allah O Atheist ......


If the entire universe as well as not worth nothing before God what about you, O man !!!



What is equal to defy your Creator and Giver By the grace of honoring you

exist?



How dare the Creator of the universe and denies his existence and bounty and blessing?


Says that the universe was found by chance!!!



How to Deny God (allah) and arrogant in their own land and under the

sky which is able to destroy the entire universe?




it is God's creation....

praise and thank to God ...

Will complete commentary and pictures tomorrow ...



imanway
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Old 05-03-2010, 02:38 PM
 
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You likely think that there were no ancient photos?
That would be correct. There were no photos before 1835 or so. (The rest of your post I cannot understand at all.)
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Old 05-04-2010, 09:31 AM
 
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This is a picture of the universe also called "cosmic web"

represents all galaxies allah has spoken about in the Koran and said " by

the heaven full of paths" 26-7






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Old 05-04-2010, 11:41 AM
 
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That would be correct. There were no photos before 1835 or so. (The rest of your post I cannot understand at all.)
I agree . The photo is a primitive thing.
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Old 05-04-2010, 11:47 AM
 
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Default Image to demonstrate that the iron came down from sky ...

Image to demonstrate that the iron came down from sky ...





This is a picture display site NASA on March 4, 2007 The scientists said

a picture of the comet with a length of more than 30 million kilometers ..


And that it swimming in the universe is likely to collide with any planet inencounter ..


At analyzing showed that the comet tail is iron compounds, and the

meteorites that fell on the Earth billions of years ago and loaded with iron

has enriched the earth this element.....



Therefore, when speaking of the Koran about iron stressed that the iron

came down from sky ....



allah said in Quran "" And We brought forth iron wherein is mighty power (in matters of war[]), as well as many benefits for mankind, that Allh may test who it is that will help Him (His religion), and His Messengers in the unseen. Verily, Allh is All-Strong, All-Mighty. "" Al-Hadd 25




it is Consistent with the Qur'anic text .....


I believe in God!
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Old 05-04-2010, 12:27 PM
 
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1. All elements ultimately "came down from the sky." Not just iron.

2. It was common knowledge among ancient cultures that iron meteorites fell from the sky, long before Muhammad was born or Islam was invented. What is "miraculous" about the Qur'an containing information that everybody else already knew?
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Old 05-07-2010, 11:03 AM
 
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1. All elements ultimately "came down from the sky." Not just iron.

2. It was common knowledge among ancient cultures that iron meteorites fell from the sky, long before Muhammad was born or Islam was invented. What is "miraculous" about the Qur'an containing information that everybody else already knew?

Were not this information known before Islam definitely

Read it yourself and look at information that is located in the Koran it is hadn't been stated in any holy book...

Formative stages of the fetus were not known before Islam

Now we read in the Koran

1400 years ago, no one knew this information

Reached by modern science, and convey for you after 1400 years

this is "miraculous" about the Qur'an

Which indicates that the Koran is the word of God and that Islam is the

religion of God

Just be fair
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Old 05-07-2010, 11:30 AM
 
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Formative stages of the fetus were not known before Islam
Well... that would be true if you were talking about the real formative stages of the fetus. But those are not the stages reflected in the Qur'an. The ones reflected in the Qur'an are indistinguishable from the (false) theories of the Greek physician Galen who lived some 400 years or so before Muhammad was born.

The Qur'anic stages (nutfah, alaqah, mudgha) are actually quite in error. And it gets worse when you try to conform it with the completely wrong timing of the stages as reflected in ahadith.

In short, both the Qur'an and the Hadith are factually wrong when discussing embryology.

Although its been a while since I spent any time on this subject, I actually have spent quite a large amount of time exploring the alleged "miraculous scientific information" in the Qur'an in the past. I did so by applying a simple three pronged text. For a piece of "scientific" information in the Qur'an to be considered miraculous, it had to:

1. Be completely unknown to every other human culture and tradition until the Qur'an was written. After all, the Qur'an should not get credit for a miracle that other people were able to figure out on their own without divine help. The "iron came down from heaven" example flunked this test.

2. It had to be a clear and unambiguous statement of fact. Most claims of "miracles of the Qur'an" are actually not in the Qur'an at all, but added in interpretation and commentary. If a "miracle" is something that nobody noticed in the Qur'an until after secular scientists discovered it first, it cannot count. Examples here would be claims of the Qur'an referring to the Big Bang or an expanding universe.

3. It must be true. The "embryology phases" argument you made above flunks this test.

I have to tell you. I have never found a single claim of "miraculous scientific information" in the Qur'an that could pass this test.
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Old 05-07-2010, 11:45 AM
 
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hi all


allah said in Quraan "O man! What has made you careless concerning your Lord, the Most Generous? Who created you,fashioned you perfectly, and gave you due proportion" Al-Infitr 8-6



Let's start a journey of contemplation ...

It may be aware to our size before the greatness of the universe ...

to Consider our planet as Seem from the outside:





So look for our astronauts, it is the land of giant and large ...


Thus, we are calculate it but is it so ?


Let us consider this picture of our planet Front of the sun real size:









Little blue ball is the land that we live in....


Look at the tongue of flame emanating from the sun....



If it approached our planet what to do about it? Without doubt, life is going to die on its back within minutes....


But this is not everything, let us reflect on these giant sun from the outside how it look?







The sun looks like a small bright star that we can not distinguish between these stars!!




I Will complete image at another time it ought to contemplate them




References: source images and scientific information NASA




imanway

This does it for me
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Old 05-07-2010, 12:00 PM
 
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Our planet is suitable for humans now, and we should be grateful -- true.

However, Earth won't last forever -- no planet does. The rest of the universe has no known life sustaining conditions. All religions claim a man look alike God with human emotions. And such God created the universe. But, such human God created a universe that's totally hostile
to life?
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