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Old 06-13-2007, 07:13 PM
 
Location: Bay Area, CA
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OMG! Gizmo....except for the Jesus thing maybe I am a Jew!
LOL... I've actually thought that about you, which is probably why we get along. Not that I don't get along with Christians (I do have many Christian friends), but there's a definite difference in our way of thinking. Reform Jews in particular don't take the Bible/Torah literally, and instead we use it as a "guide for life." We're taught that goodness comes from the heart, and is shown through your actions in life - not how loudly you can shout "PRAISE JESUS!"

 
Old 06-13-2007, 07:15 PM
 
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As a Christian I must BELIEVE that, not just assume it. I think for myself, and I trust Him completely, one can do both.
And you have your beliefs, which I respect, but you by no means would call yourself Christian.
Christians just for the record, are not those who call themselves so, but are followers of Christ, by our fruit we are known, not by what we claim, if you produce rotten fruit you can call yourself Christian that does not make you one.
Not sure if you're confused or if I am (about your post), but I'm a Jew... so no, I'd never call myself a Christian - LOL. I also feel that Christians come in all "flavors", so what YOU consider "Christian behavior" isn't necessarily true either. We all have our own beliefs, which is what makes this world interesting, but I think it's important to respect other people's beliefs - no matter what they choose to call themselves.
 
Old 06-13-2007, 07:18 PM
 
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Good way to take half quotes and scripture out of context!! OH MY GOODNESSS!!!
I might get flamed for stating the obvious, but isn't that what Christians are famous for?? MANY debates I've had with Christians result in half-quotes, mis-interpretations (or at least "questionable" interpretations), and skewing the Bible's words to suit one's agenda. And that's why people like Irishmom & myself don't use it as a handbook, but prefer to form our own opinions - with religion as our GUIDE.
 
Old 06-13-2007, 07:21 PM
 
Location: Between Here and There
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I might get flamed for stating the obvious, but isn't that what Christians are famous for?? MANY debates I've had with Christians result in half-quotes, mis-interpretations (or at least "questionable" interpretations), and skewing the Bible's words to suit one's agenda. And that's why people like Irishmom & myself don't use it as a handbook, but prefer to form our own opinions - with religion as our GUIDE.
LOL....well I have to say the only time I quote scripture is when I'm asked or to post in opposition to what I consider close minded. So yes I would have to agree with you that is what Christians are famous for...LOL

But since evidently I've been judged not a Christian it really doesn't matter anyway.
 
Old 06-13-2007, 07:26 PM
 
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LOL....well I have to say the only time I quote scripture is when I'm asked or to post in opposition to what I consider close minded. So yes I would have to agree with you that is what Christians are famous for...LOL

But since evidently I've been judged not a Christian it really doesn't matter anyway.
Touche. But I think we both know that only YOU and whoever is up there (or not up there, for that matter) can judge... I personally think you show more Christian-like behavior than many "die-hard" Christians I've met. But that's just my interpretation of what a Christian should be, and obviously we all have different opinions on that.
 
Old 06-13-2007, 07:55 PM
 
Location: Alexandria, VA
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Not sure if you're confused or if I am (about your post), but I'm a Jew... so no, I'd never call myself a Christian - LOL. I also feel that Christians come in all "flavors", so what YOU consider "Christian behavior" isn't necessarily true either. We all have our own beliefs, which is what makes this world interesting, but I think it's important to respect other people's beliefs - no matter what they choose to call themselves.
You said that I was assuming...I was saying, I as a Christian must... sorry...I know you are Jewish. Sorry about the misunderstanding.



The Word of God the Bible that Christians follow tells us how to discern who is Christian and who is not, and that we must discern.... to be faithful to God I must discern.

MBG
 
Old 06-13-2007, 07:59 PM
 
Location: Alexandria, VA
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I might get flamed for stating the obvious, but isn't that what Christians are famous for?? MANY debates I've had with Christians result in half-quotes, mis-interpretations (or at least "questionable" interpretations), and skewing the Bible's words to suit one's agenda. And that's why people like Irishmom & myself don't use it as a handbook, but prefer to form our own opinions - with religion as our GUIDE.
I know some people who do that, but I would not call them Christian. Sad that that is who you see God's people. That makes me very sad.
I am very glad that I don't do that.
But see IrishMom did just that, quoted many verses way out of context, to support her view and not what the bible actually says.
I will start a thread on just that.
MBG
 
Old 06-13-2007, 08:00 PM
 
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Yup it does sound confusing doesn't it? Like you I think He will make the right decision though.
Not confusing to those who actually read it...
MBG
 
Old 06-13-2007, 08:22 PM
 
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LOL... We're taught that goodness comes from the heart, and is shown through your actions in life - not how loudly you can shout "PRAISE JESUS!"

And Christians are not taught the same thing??



(boy, are we ever off topic!)
 
Old 06-13-2007, 09:17 PM
 
Location: Alexandria, VA
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And Christians are not taught the same thing??



(boy, are we ever off topic!)
Ain't that the truth!! BTW why would a Jew be taught to praise Jesus??
MBG
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