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Old 05-25-2010, 02:29 PM
 
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hi all,

my words are to non-muslim here " Jewish, Christian, Buddhist ,Atheist"

Whether was visitor or member ... ** it is just for allah "our lord" **


God says to you:

1- allah said in Quran 64. "Say (O Muhammad SAW): "O people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians): Come to a word that is just between us and you, that we worship none but Allh, and that we associate no partners with Him, and that none of us shall take others as lords besides Allh[]. Then, if they turn away, say: "Bear witness that we are Muslims."


2- allah said in Quran 56. "And I (Allh) created not the jinns and humans except they should worship Me (Alone).
57. I seek not any provision from them (i.e. provision for themselves or for My creatures) nor do I ask that they should feed Me (i.e. feed themselves or My creatures).
58. Verily, Allh is the All-Provider, Owner of Power, the Most Strong."


3- allah said in Quran 19. "Truly, the religion with Allh is Islm. Those who were given the Scripture (Jews and Christians) did not differ except, out of mutual jealousy, after knowledge had come to them. And whoever disbelieves in the Ayt (proofs, evidences, verses, signs, revelations, etc.) of Allh, then surely, Allh is Swift in calling to account".


4- allah said in Quran 85 "And whoever seeks a religion other than Islm, it will never be accepted of him, and in the Hereafter he will be one of the losers "


6- allah said in Quran 72. "Surely, they have disbelieved who say: "Allh is the Messiah ['Iesa (Jesus)], son of Maryam (Mary)." But the Messiah ['Iesa (Jesus)] said: "O Children of Israel! Worship Allh, my Lord and your Lord." Verily, whosoever sets up partners in worship with Allh, then Allh has forbidden Paradise for him, and the Fire will be his abode[]. And for the Zlimn (polytheists and wrong­doers) there are no helpers".


7- allah said in Quran 171. "O people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians)! Do not exceed the limits in your religion, nor say of Allh aught but the truth. The Messiah 'Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary), was (no more than) a Messenger of Allh and His Word, ("Be!" - and he was) which He bestowed on Maryam (Mary) and a spirit (Rh)[] created by Him; so believe in Allh and His Messengers. Say not: "Three (trinity)!" Cease! (it is) better for you. For Allh is (the only) One Ilh (God), Glory be to Him (Far Exalted is He) above having a son. To Him belongs all that is in the heavens and all that is in the earth. And Allh is All­Sufficient as a Disposer of affairs".



** it is just for allah "our lord" **




imanway
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Old 05-25-2010, 02:34 PM
 
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Do you folk have any thoughts for yourselves? Or is everything in your mind a cut'n paste from the Quoran?

How about just posting *one* verse, and then your personal opinion and interpretation, or a cute story about it, or how it affected you personally.

Something *more* than just rote regurgitation.
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Old 05-25-2010, 03:14 PM
 
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Do you folk have any thoughts for yourselves? Or is everything in your mind a cut'n paste from the Quoran?

How about just posting *one* verse, and then your personal opinion and interpretation, or a cute story about it, or how it affected you personally.

Something *more* than just rote regurgitation.
That is not a part of their cognitive training and education. It is all rote.
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Old 05-25-2010, 03:53 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Hey Imanway, your god is a human invention just like every other god. Don't need it, or any other imaginary friend to live a good and happy life.
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Old 05-25-2010, 04:18 PM
 
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hi all,

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imanway
A man name Muhammad said god said that.. There's a HUGE difference..
http://unreasonablefaith.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/Word-of-God.jpg (broken link)
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Old 05-25-2010, 10:15 PM
 
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That is not a part of their cognitive training and education. It is all rote.
I'm not as negative on Islam as you, but this is true of much Islamic education of the last 2-3 centuries. The Mongols, the Reconquista, and the decline of the Ottoman Empire led to a kind of intellectual malaise in the Islamic world which it maybe has never fully recovered from. Although there have been some interesting movements like Ahmadiyya, Alevi, the Gulen movement, the Mourides, the Republican brothers, Jaringan Islam Liberal, and some others.
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Old 05-25-2010, 10:37 PM
 
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I'm not as negative on Islam as you, but this is true of much Islamic education of the last 2-3 centuries. The Mongols, the Reconquista, and the decline of the Ottoman Empire led to a kind of intellectual malaise in the Islamic world which it maybe has never fully recovered from. Although there have been some interesting movements like Ahmadiyya, Alevi, the Gulen movement, the Mourides, the Republican brothers, Jaringan Islam Liberal, and some others.
I admire your scholarship, tolerance and optimism, Thomas . . . but I am much too concerned about the global threat presented by Islam as it is currently popularized throughout the world. These minority movements are and have been intimidated and their leaders killed(Republican Brothers has been inactive for over 20 years). The JIL is little more than a City-Data for liberal Muslims.
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Old 05-25-2010, 11:09 PM
 
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hi all,

my words are to non-muslim here " Jewish, Christian, Buddhist ,Atheist"

Whether was visitor or member ... ** it is just for allah "our lord" **


God says to you:

1- allah said in Quran 64. "Say (O Muhammad SAW): "O people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians): Come to a word that is just between us and you, that we worship none but Allh, and that we associate no partners with Him, and that none of us shall take others as lords besides Allh[]. Then, if they turn away, say: "Bear witness that we are Muslims."


2- allah said in Quran 56. "And I (Allh) created not the jinns and humans except they should worship Me (Alone).
57. I seek not any provision from them (i.e. provision for themselves or for My creatures) nor do I ask that they should feed Me (i.e. feed themselves or My creatures).
58. Verily, Allh is the All-Provider, Owner of Power, the Most Strong."


3- allah said in Quran 19. "Truly, the religion with Allh is Islm. Those who were given the Scripture (Jews and Christians) did not differ except, out of mutual jealousy, after knowledge had come to them. And whoever disbelieves in the Ayt (proofs, evidences, verses, signs, revelations, etc.) of Allh, then surely, Allh is Swift in calling to account".


4- allah said in Quran 85 "And whoever seeks a religion other than Islm, it will never be accepted of him, and in the Hereafter he will be one of the losers "


6- allah said in Quran 72. "Surely, they have disbelieved who say: "Allh is the Messiah ['Iesa (Jesus)], son of Maryam (Mary)." But the Messiah ['Iesa (Jesus)] said: "O Children of Israel! Worship Allh, my Lord and your Lord." Verily, whosoever sets up partners in worship with Allh, then Allh has forbidden Paradise for him, and the Fire will be his abode[]. And for the Zlimn (polytheists and wrong*doers) there are no helpers".


7- allah said in Quran 171. "O people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians)! Do not exceed the limits in your religion, nor say of Allh aught but the truth. The Messiah 'Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary), was (no more than) a Messenger of Allh and His Word, ("Be!" - and he was) which He bestowed on Maryam (Mary) and a spirit (Rh)[] created by Him; so believe in Allh and His Messengers. Say not: "Three (trinity)!" Cease! (it is) better for you. For Allh is (the only) One Ilh (God), Glory be to Him (Far Exalted is He) above having a son. To Him belongs all that is in the heavens and all that is in the earth. And Allh is All*Sufficient as a Disposer of affairs".



** it is just for allah "our lord" **




imanway
Humdallah, brother imanway, you asked me in another forum when i reverted back to islam. i reverted about 2 months ago, Subhan Allah, i have done much research before and after i bacame a muslim. Iwas raised catholic through my parents and converted to Christianity without doing any research on the religion. after reading the bible and a few other books, i found that things just didnt make sense to me. My phiances uncle has been a muslim for mos of his life and he helped anothrr brother convert. I worked with both of them doong renovating for a couple of years and after asking all the how's and why's that i could possibly think of, of course keeping in mind that Allah exist, i could not refuse it. Humdallah, i am where jm at now and gaining more knowledge than ever. No matter what anyone says, i believe islam is a beautiful religion and im glad i found it. Eerything just makes sense. Everytime i ask abiutth things people say on this forum its explained to me how most of thrm are inncorrect or misinformed. if theyre right about a hadith or a verse then they miaconstrue ita meaning. Humdallah brother imanway, i know hat me and you are just trying to help people here on this forum and Insha Allah outside of it in our daily life but just bear in mind, theres a verse that says people will not believe even when the information is shown to them. People did not believe in Mohommad, Christ, Moses, peace be upon them all and the miracles were shown to them in that day and time. people still disbelieved but the quran says do not frustrate yourself with them, Insha Allah one day Allah will open their hearts because we can only do so much. I look forward hearing from you in other forums, Insha Allah.
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Old 05-25-2010, 11:13 PM
 
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hi all,

my words are to non-muslim here " Jewish, Christian, Buddhist ,Atheist"

Whether was visitor or member ... ** it is just for allah "our lord" **


God says to you:

1- allah said in Quran 64. "Say (O Muhammad SAW): "O people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians): Come to a word that is just between us and you, that we worship none but Allh, and that we associate no partners with Him, and that none of us shall take others as lords besides Allh[]. Then, if they turn away, say: "Bear witness that we are Muslims."


2- allah said in Quran 56. "And I (Allh) created not the jinns and humans except they should worship Me (Alone).
57. I seek not any provision from them (i.e. provision for themselves or for My creatures) nor do I ask that they should feed Me (i.e. feed themselves or My creatures).
58. Verily, Allh is the All-Provider, Owner of Power, the Most Strong."


3- allah said in Quran 19. "Truly, the religion with Allh is Islm. Those who were given the Scripture (Jews and Christians) did not differ except, out of mutual jealousy, after knowledge had come to them. And whoever disbelieves in the Ayt (proofs, evidences, verses, signs, revelations, etc.) of Allh, then surely, Allh is Swift in calling to account".


4- allah said in Quran 85 "And whoever seeks a religion other than Islm, it will never be accepted of him, and in the Hereafter he will be one of the losers "


6- allah said in Quran 72. "Surely, they have disbelieved who say: "Allh is the Messiah ['Iesa (Jesus)], son of Maryam (Mary)." But the Messiah ['Iesa (Jesus)] said: "O Children of Israel! Worship Allh, my Lord and your Lord." Verily, whosoever sets up partners in worship with Allh, then Allh has forbidden Paradise for him, and the Fire will be his abode[]. And for the Zlimn (polytheists and wrong*doers) there are no helpers".


7- allah said in Quran 171. "O people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians)! Do not exceed the limits in your religion, nor say of Allh aught but the truth. The Messiah 'Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary), was (no more than) a Messenger of Allh and His Word, ("Be!" - and he was) which He bestowed on Maryam (Mary) and a spirit (Rh)[] created by Him; so believe in Allh and His Messengers. Say not: "Three (trinity)!" Cease! (it is) better for you. For Allh is (the only) One Ilh (God), Glory be to Him (Far Exalted is He) above having a son. To Him belongs all that is in the heavens and all that is in the earth. And Allh is All*Sufficient as a Disposer of affairs".



** it is just for allah "our lord" **




imanway
Hummmmmm, this kinda reads like the christian bible except with different threats.
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Old 05-26-2010, 03:01 AM
 
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Anyone who has the power to make you believe absurdities has the power to make you commit injustices.~Voltaire
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