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Old 06-14-2010, 11:32 AM
 
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You do mean: Ideological sins cannot be told from sins of adultery to Jesus. Because He owned that himself.
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Old 06-14-2010, 05:19 PM
 
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Simply...the Quran can give you the answers to all your questions...you dont need to be influenced by external things and ideologies. Did you know that scientific explanations were always in the Quran ...it was only after that man discovered them..
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Old 06-15-2010, 10:17 AM
 
Location: Somewhere out there
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Default Aaaannnndddd... he proves our point for us. Thx, Muhammad E!

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Simply...the Quran can give you the answers to all your questions...you dont need to be influenced by external things and ideologies. Did you know that scientific explanations were always in the Quran ...it was only after that man discovered them..
Rubbish. Please point out the exact passage in the QR where it outlines, in unambiguous terminology, the electro-chemistry of fusion reactions, the structure of DNA, the interaction of molecules that create new more complex ones, the structure of an NPN semi-conductor gate, the structure and functioning of the electron microscope, the means by which a simple virus takes over the cellular mechanism, hell; even the basics of the living cell... the...

Well. Just a couple of those phenoms we now understand will do for now.

Fact is; they had some basic initial observations of the heavens where there was previously NO knowledge, so it was a pretty blank page back then. And they figured out a few very simple mechanical relationships. Beyond that, they were typically illiterate, but now that same illiteracy is celebrated and, in fact, mandated. But the kids are all brainwashed to believe, as you do, that you are all great leaders in knowledge.

Nope. you are only world leaders in blind-faith death and mayhem, frankly.

Islamic science leaders? Not so much. Nobel Prize winners? Nope; sorry.

Scholarly or even fiction writings recognized as best-quality by the rest of the world? Nope. Well, except for Dr. Rushdie, whom you promptly sentenced to death. Nice!

Basic C-4 bomb design? Not even that; they stole this from the Brits and Russians. All those prolific RPGs are simply the infamous and antique Type 69, 85mm version first seen in the Russian and Chinese Armies in the late '60s. Heavy, inaccurate, but like a baseball bat used in a crowd, quite effective at close range.

All this from back when the US developed the shoulder-launched Stinger or LAWS rockets, all significantly more advanced. And the Muslim designed version? They even prefer British Semtex plastic. I know; we used it frequently in the Canuck Army. It is recognized as the best in the world. Not the "made from mud, diesel , fertilizer and sheep droppings" Muslim version.

Scientific leadership? Phunny. Very Phunny!

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You belong to the group of people who can only do propaganda against Islam by portraying an absolutely wrong picture of it.Terrorism is being done on the name of Islam

[Exactly! And the bleeting Muslim sheeple masses do essentially NOTHING about that supposed misinterpretation. It's all tacitly accepted, and the horrifying results of their terrorism are all publicly cheered on by the brain-addled masses. This is the result of your inaction, not our mis-interpretation. Simple as that!]

..and the entire thing is backed by the enemies of Islam.

So call them out on it! Oust them from your country, your cities, your neighborhoods, your mosques. do it! Stop whining and playing the victims, else you surely will be caught up in their demise. Which, I guarantee, is on it's way.

Islam doesn't allow any kind of violence or act of terrorism.

Hmm... that New York City Imam, the good "Dr." Farrakhan, Amadinejhad, Osama "hasBin" Laden; the current thuggo Somali government; all of them merrily preaching on and on about the impending demise of the West and the supremacy of Islam. You summarized that ideology yourself, right here:

"Islam will rule the world one day."

Uhhhmmm... how so? By kindly persuasion and re-education, all while denying free thought, science, free-speech and public opinion? I don't think so, Muhammad. "...doesn't allow violence"? So you keep saying.

Well, actions speak so much louder than words, frankly. Prove it to the world. You do realize that, essentially, the only relationship or identity we Westerners see of Islam is constant violence, don't you?

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We do not associate Islam with, say, peace marches, or of providing assistance to the victims of such bombings, or of natural disasters. Where's those kindly activities? When do the local mosque members rush to downtown Bombay to help the victims of the latest Muslim suicide bombing atrocity?

Answer me that simple question.


....But you'll not understand it. Actually you do not have the guts to face reality.

What an absolute crock, frankly. No guts? Haha. It's you who hides behind your rote-chanted fantasies.


Anyways, only time will tell whether Islam becomes a footnote in history or a religion that the world will follow.

You show me the proof where Islam teaches its follower to offend the innocents and weak. Where does Quran promote terrorism?

Apparently it may also be in the interpretation, but that part's what we all see day-to-day, on the national media. For instance, where does it state, in the bible, that the RC Church should steal from their peasant congregations in order to build massive, magnificent architectural icons, and to feed and cloth their higher administration in utter luxury? Or to become active pedophiles?

Answer: nowhere, but that has not stopped them. Difference is, we're taking them to court on much of it, and they are thereby losing their long-held influence.

By comparison, the population growth of the utterly miserable, destitute and illiterate masses all over this globe is perfect for a transient Islamic surge, but it will only create "cannon fodder".

Look that up why don't you?
No; here; I'll do it for you:

cannon fodder: Definition from Answers.com

Also known as the innocent young men sent to their personal Valhalla, Heaven or hell by the senile bearded old scowling ideologue geezers secure back in their heated, dry HQ, pounding the table about the sure and certain magnificence of their ideals, their Koran or bible!

This life is merely a transient state for the innocent, right? They owe their spirit to Allah, yes?

Well, go for it. You have only the lives of entire generations of innocent young me to lose after all.


Its better you stop talking about Islam in a disgusting manner. Why don't you get the hell outta here when you have nothing to say but ******.
Why? Because this review, which is disgusting I'll agree, all needs to be exposed and debated, and is why we're here. In the West, it's called freedom of speech, a concept foreign to all of Islam I know...

If you do not like the realistic part, it's you who should perhaps bug out. Or provide us with proof of Islam's peaceful intentions. According to you, this should be quite simple, no?

Well, here y'are, Mohammed! A poem from one of your own!


"Now thanks to rogue mullahs hate madrssas replaced
Hurting none but themselves these terrorists
On the face of the good part of the earth displaced
Islam the banner of Peace and Brotherhood defaced
Jehad jehadis martyrdom misplaced
Silence from the rest of the community a fact home based "

Peace!
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Old 06-15-2010, 10:26 AM
 
Location: NC, USA
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Where are the Muslims??? Uh......mostly in the Middle East????? Have you ever noticed that religion works best in hot climates? That is because the sun can bake "logic and reason" out of the human brain. The other example would be southern baptists.
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Old 06-15-2010, 10:59 AM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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You belong to the group of people who can only do propaganda against Islam by portraying an absolutely wrong picture of it.Terrorism is being done on the name of Islam and the entire thing is backed by the enemies of Islam. Islam doesn't allow any kind of violence or act of terrorism. But you'll not understand it. Actually you do not have the guts to face reality.

Anyways, only time will tell whether Islam becomes a footnote in history or a religion that the world will follow.

You show me the proof where Islam teaches its follower to offend the innocents and weak. Where does Quran promote terrorism?

Its better you stop talking about Islam in a disgusting manner. Why don't you get the hell outta here when you have nothing to say but ******.
Do you think nonbelievers are innocents?

Qur'an (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them"
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Old 06-15-2010, 07:17 PM
 
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You belong to the group of people who can only do propaganda against Islam by portraying an absolutely wrong picture of it.Terrorism is being done on the name of Islam and the entire thing is backed by the enemies of Islam. Islam doesn't allow any kind of violence or act of terrorism. But you'll not understand it. Actually you do not have the guts to face reality.

Anyways, only time will tell whether Islam becomes a footnote in history or a religion that the world will follow.

You show me the proof where Islam teaches its follower to offend the innocents and weak. Where does Quran promote terrorism?

Its better you stop talking about Islam in a disgusting manner. Why don't you get the hell outta here when you have nothing to say but ******.
No one needs to do propaganda against Islam, Muslim extremists do that all by themselves.
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Old 06-15-2010, 08:59 PM
 
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Default Yep; fine examples of Islam indeed. Something for free Muslims to be proud of, for sure!

On NPR tonight (Tuesday June 15th), Fresh Air with Terry Gross, she interviewed Maziar Bahari, a Newsweek correspondent, Muslim in faith, who was imprisoned for 118 days in his own homeland of "lovely" Islamic Tehran, for disputing the so-called democratic elections last year. He was then regularly beaten, forced to "admit" he was a sexual deviant, and he was threatened with death for treason, but only after a likely 6 year investigation if he did not immediately confess to spying. He gave in. Later he was cajoled, prior to his release on bail, in order to assure his captors that he would return to London and spy for Iran and Islam. This following months of being beaten and interrogated. Such a cowardly Westerner, huh?

On his arrival in London he then received phone calls at odd hours from his "handlers" back in Iran, and despite threats to some of his family who still live in Iran, he eventually, and now continues to, openly denounce the brutal religious state there, but now must therefore worry on a daily basis about the safety of his family who remain there against their will.

Such stories only harden the resolve of cautious Westerners to resist Islam as a theo-political force. And to question it's stated superiority as a religion, and it's noisy ministrations that it is the source of all godly truth, scientific understanding and human nobility. The endless dismissals and denials by Muslim acolyte defenders here on C-D, of their "willing ineffectiveness" in effecting any changes against the various petty, thug Islamo-Republic regime infractions is a sad and, I'd say, cowardly commentary indeed.

Its' all strangely reminiscent of the old Nazi approach:

"Zo! You haf vamily livink in zah oeldt kountry, yah? Tell us who zah ozzer mempers of your rezistance netverk are! Mach SCHNELL!"

Such is the modus operandi of thugs from all fanatic theocratic (and in Maziar's tragic case, Islamic) states. Not to be outdone of course, Christians have The Spanish Inquisition, The Crusades and various witch trials and godly investigations in their colorful pasts.

"Where are the Muslims?" you ask? Apparently alive and well, and in force, in Tehran.

Mr. Bahari, I wish you only the best in getting your personal, spiritual and professional life back together after this horrifying demonstration of religious fervor run amok. Condolences sir: if it were up to us scientists, this sort of fanatical brutality would certainly not have ever happened, or would at the very least be widely condemned by the citizens of the offending country, no matter where they live.

One can only hope that the current hopeless victims of this endless dictatorial Islamic oppression of knowledge and political freedom, of religious freedom and of basic human rights, will survive to the eventual demise of those brainless thugs the world over. Islam is, in fact, doomed if this is typical of it's methods.

Otherwise, Iran, as well as Pakistan, Somalia and Afghani tribal states, stand as the prime global examples of Islam at it's finest.
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"Sisters of Mercy" by Leonard Cohen: it got Mr. Bahari through his tragic endurance. Seems that you cannot suppress integrity, huh?


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