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Old 09-24-2017, 03:11 PM
Status: "I'm an unmherkun puppy-kicking Socialist" (set 6 days ago)
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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I see you're asking these rhetorical questions attempting to be obtuse, because I'm sure you already know the answer to this.

While I don't agree with everything on that particular site, I do think it does try to call out the people/politicians who continue to drive the city into the ground. If you want feel good stories that portray Jackson as some paradise and tells you what you want to hear, the Jackson Free Press is great for that.

Neither site is good for providing solutions though.
Seriously? Jackson Free Press is portraying a feel-good paradise? You must be paying too close attention to the Arts and other entertainment sections and just gleaming over the hard news stuff.

The JFP is constantly bringing up the need to face race-related issues (and all forms of discrimination in general) without hysteria. It also stresses the need to support local and neighborhood businesses in order to bring life back to the city. Regardless, they certainly say that boo-hoo doom-and-gloom is not going to change things, but instead it's going to be people taking risks to get the city back on its feet...or even merely off its knees. Yes, some projects (personal or community) are going to fail. That still doesn't mean to let all the naysayers have the final say-so, even if they are sometimes correct.

As for crime, if anything JFP is anti crime hysteria even while acknowledging the huge crime problem Jackson has. I will be the first to admit Jackson has a horrendous crime problem, no doubt one of the worst in the nation among metros its size (say, between 1/2 and 3/4 million people). Even so, central cities are simply not the kinds of places where you leave your iPhone and tablet in an unlocked car at 11 pm - everywhere. Again, naysaying and fingerpointing is not going to solve things.

That's my takeaway from the JFP news section, and its op-ed pages too.
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Old 04-19-2019, 03:50 PM
 
Location: Central Mississippi
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Default Jackson, Mississippi Gentrification, City Hall, Horrible Streets

It is now 2019. Crime is up in Jackson (murders are already at 31 as of April, 2019) burglaries, black on black crime, black on white crime, etc. Jackson streets are in such disrepair that a young woman, about to graduate from high school, was killed when her car hit an unmarked open city sewer grate on her way to graduation practice in 2018. Scores of cars have been badly damaged by the hundreds of pot holes that pepper nearly every street in Jackson Proper. Chokwe Lumumba has absolutely NO IDEA how to run ANY city, much less a city as trouble-laden as Jackson, Mississippi. The City of Jackson is crumbling before his eyes and he has no clue how to change that fact.

White Flight was a disaster for Jackson. I lived in an middle-to-upper class subdivision off of Ellis avenue as a child. One house on the far end of our street sold to African Americans and then it was like a line of dominos on fire, with residents in the neighborhood putting their houses up for sale and African Americans were their only takers. A well-know Mississippi Civil rights leader bought the house next door to us and my parents had a "For Sale by Owner" sign in our front yard the day after they were informed of this.

We then bought a house in Ridgeland, which was not as populated in 1975 as it is today. In fact, it was almost like living in the county. The closest grocery store was the Kroger on I-55. It never felt like "home" to us. So, we moved to south Jackson in 1976. We settled into a new subdivision off of Rainey Road. We had almost all the conveniences we had in west Jackson, with the exception of a major shopping center. That was remedied by the Metrocenter Mall in 1978. I graduated from Forest Hill High school and worked part-time at Warehouse Food Center (later Sack-N-Save). Life was good, that is until the mid 1990's, when the migration of crime and other changes moved south, forcing my mother to move to Byram, which has now begun changing for the worse.

One of the main problems Jackson faces is that the City Council is jam-packed with stupid and ignorant people, with the exception of Melvin Priester, Jr. It is my belief that should Priester choose to run for Mayor in the next election, things might change for the better. That is, if he had a viable tax base to draw from. Many Jackson businesses have fled the city, settling in Madison and Rankin counties and Jackson has a large percentage of welfare recipients who pay no taxes whatsoever. Therefore, there has been a significant drop in tax revenue.

Sadly, neighborhoods such as Belhaven and Woodland Hills, have many houses for sale due to the dramatic increase in crime in both areas. These homes are listed for pennies on the dollar (with the exception of some of the historic home) from what they were once worth. If you don't believe me, check Realtor.com, type in the 39202, 39216 and 39206 zip codes.

There is gentrification happening in the Fondren area, as well as the area west of North West Street behind Millsaps College. Many of those in the latter are members of the Pinelake Church (missionaries, if you will).
Gentrification is the only way, in my opinion, that the city has to re-coupe even a small portion of the tax base it has lost due to Jacksonians leaving crime-riddled Jackson for a safer place to live, better schools for their children and a safer place to conduct business. Even if more gentrification happens, it will be slow going to build up a viable tax base.

What I do know is that unless there is significant change in city leadership, crime in Jackson will only increase and the city will continue to operate on whatever small tax base they have left.

Something MUST change in order for Jackson to become a viable city once again. Only then will there even be a possibility of those who have fled to the suburbs, including me, to return to Jackson and rebuild what was once our thriving, safe city.
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Old 04-19-2019, 05:37 PM
 
Location: North Jackson
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It is now 2019. Crime is up in Jackson (murders are already at 31 as of April, 2019) burglaries, black on black crime, black on white crime, etc. Jackson streets are in such disrepair that a young woman, about to graduate from high school, was killed when her car hit an unmarked open city sewer grate on her way to graduation practice in 2018. Scores of cars have been badly damaged by the hundreds of pot holes that pepper nearly every street in Jackson Proper. Chokwe Lumumba has absolutely NO IDEA how to run ANY city, much less a city as trouble-laden as Jackson, Mississippi. The City of Jackson is crumbling before his eyes and he has no clue how to change that fact.
You're correct, it is 2019. Pretty much everything else in this paragraph was wrong.

Overall crime is down...
Murders ARE up, but 99% of the murders are between relatives and acquaintances, and are happening in poor, residential areas. Not places where YOU hang out...
What "black on white" crime? Crime against white people in Jackson is so rare that you can almost count the incidents. If any people should be afraid in Jackson it's black people, not white people.
How exactly is Lumumba doing worse than Yarber, Johnson, Melton, and Ditto, when all of those other Mayors did nothing in terms of preventative maintenance? Lumumba didn't ignore road maintenance, or not maintain the water system, or screw up the school system. Did you even notice that nothing was being maintained for the past 40 years?

Try again, sparky.
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Old 04-20-2019, 02:08 PM
 
Location: Central Mississippi
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JacksonPanther: Care to back up your OPINIONS with data? Am I wrong about crime traveling from mid-city Jackson to South Jackson to Byram (check that town's crime data)? What about carjackings, house burglaries, and home invasions in the Jackson metro area for black on white crime? I've read some of your posts. You are dead on about the breakdown of the family unit blacks in Jackson. Children are left to their own devices when mom and/or dad don't care and/or not present. They get their rearing by the punks on the street which perpetuates the cycle. Any firm data would be appreciated...Sparky!
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Old 04-20-2019, 02:34 PM
 
Location: Central Mississippi
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Oh, wait! I WAS wrong! You did not post about the breakdown of family units. That was something posted by a more enlightened person than you.
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Old 04-20-2019, 09:45 PM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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.......... I lived in an middle-to-upper class subdivision off of Ellis avenue as a child. ............
So did I.
I once lived on Hemingway Circle. Went to Provine, too.
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Old 04-22-2019, 07:39 AM
 
Location: Jack-town, Sip by way of AL and FL
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Oh, wait! I WAS wrong! You did not post about the breakdown of family units. That was something posted by a more enlightened person than you.
You are correct in your assessments, but it's old news. Everybody knows about the state of the city, and anyone who argues with you is simply trying to argue.

The reality of the situation is that Jackson is likely never coming back to what it once was, barring an economic boost similar to what is being seen in Atlanta. The metro area will always be relevant because it is the business and government center of Mississippi, but absent the economic boom I mentioned above, most of that relevance will take place in the downtown center of Jackson, and the suburbs. The best thing Jackson can do is try to make a section of the area nice and accommodating for hotels, entertainment and restaurants. Maybe a few HQs of some companies. They can accomplish this eventually.

Government really can't change those things. All they can do is guide the ship. To create that economic boom, it likely needs to come from the state level. Things like Nissan and Continental are good, those are good first steps. But next, we need to attract some white collar jobs. Vertex Aerospace and CSpire are good examples. Those companies need growing urban/suburban areas to thrive. Trustmark needs to keep growing. Belhaven, Jackson State and Milsaps, the hospital, etc. Those are the employers you need.
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Old 04-23-2019, 04:05 PM
 
Location: Somewhere flat in Mississippi
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I thought gentrification only took place in neighborhoods that were once considered in decline, if not outright slums. I didn’t think Fondren was ever that bad.
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Old Yesterday, 12:07 PM
 
Location: Tupelo, Ms
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Let say that Jackson do a rebound economically & maintenance wise, i doubt most of the surburban populous would return. The same people talking disparagingly about the city will still be doing the same when the city doing well.
Crime issues (scapegoat imo) been there before they left and still be there in the future.

Last edited by Sharif662; Yesterday at 12:08 PM.. Reason: Additional info.
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Old Today, 07:23 AM
 
Location: Jack-town, Sip by way of AL and FL
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Let say that Jackson do a rebound economically & maintenance wise, i doubt most of the surburban populous would return. The same people talking disparagingly about the city will still be doing the same when the city doing well.
Crime issues (scapegoat imo) been there before they left and still be there in the future.
Yes it would, assuming good playing jobs and safe communities around those jobs.

The majority of people are NOT racist, even if you want them to be. Nobody is scared of the minority population in Jackson, they are scared of getting shot in the head during a random robbery.
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