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Old 01-14-2010, 03:41 PM
 
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No, I was saying that it is a misconception to think that losing one entity can't hurt a bigger city. Bigger cities require more money to run so it balances out.
oh ok.

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Many Six Flags parks started out as local parks whom Six Flags decided to acquire after they realized that they could actually work.
I hear you but 6Flags is huge, they restructure and keep things moving. one closes another opens. they got way too much money.

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Yeah, but why is this?
Just thinking of something the whole family can enjoy and spend lots of time and money at. think about it...wouldn't you go hang out at
6 Flags Jackson with your girlfriend or kids? even has a nice ring to it

Say it with me...6 Flags Jackson


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Could Jackson even support the Saints? Would Jackson fill up a stadium to watch a losing team season after season? Could they afford it? The State of Louisiana pays the Saints to play in New Orleans, not the other way around. Who would build an arena in Jackson for them to play at and where? Benson started doing training camp in Jackson to try and tap into the Jackson market, but it didn't work as he planned so he pulled out, plus the players didn't like the idea to begin with.
I think so. and it was spur of the moment so Benson was uncomfortable and so were the players. I think if he up and said "I'm moving the Saints to Jackson", the marketing would make it work. And if you can remember back when Steve MCnair was at Alcorn and they played Jackson State in the Soul Bowl Classic, wow, it was literally standing room only. and the Memorial holds about 62,000 people. the Saints can get money in Jackson. my mama is a diehard Saints fan. she liked them when they was called "the Aint's"...lol

hell Duece already pouring money into Jackson. he's a ex-Saint
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Old 01-14-2010, 03:54 PM
 
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This sounds naive to me. You really think a petition is going to bring a Six Flags to Jackson?

Six Flags Theme Parks, Inc. would first conduct many studies on an area before locating there such as number of people within X miles radius, number of competitors within X miles radius, income levels of residents in X miles radius, etc. and they would find Jackson is NOT a viable location. If it is such a good location, why is there not a theme park here already?

You could get 100,000 signatures but that won't bring a Six Flags to Jackson. I'm not trying to rain on your parade, and i'm not against making Mississippi a better place... I wish Jackson did have a Six Flags, but it won't happen. Sorry.
If somebody can put a Resort in the middle of the woods of Mississippi Pearl River Resort - Choctaw, MS, then 6 Flags Inc. can put a theme park(even a small one) in Jackson. you can't tell me it can't be done. Jackson has over 200,000 people in the metro and I guarantee every last one of them will go to it over the course of a year. guaranteed.

the petition is going to the City Council AND 6 Flags Inc. we want honest answers from both sides as to why we can't or can get this in Jackson. everything points to a positive outcome. most of the people who've signed are college to mid-20's types so that's a good sign.
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Old 01-14-2010, 03:56 PM
 
Location: New Orleans, United States
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Just thinking of something the whole family can enjoy and spend lots of time and money at. think about it...wouldn't you go hang out at
6 Flags Jackson with your girlfriend or kids? even has a nice ring to it

Say it with me...6 Flags Jackson
No, I'm asking why is there nowhere to spend money in Mississippi.


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I think so. and it was spur of the moment so Benson was uncomfortable and so were the players. I think if he up and said "I'm moving the Saints to Jackson", the marketing would make it work. And if you can remember back when Steve MCnair was at Alcorn and they played Jackson State in the Soul Bowl Classic, wow, it was literally standing room only. and the Memorial holds about 62,000 people. the Saints can get money in Jackson. my mama is a diehard Saints fan. she liked them when they was called "the Aint's"...lol

hell Duece already pouring money into Jackson. he's a ex-Saint
3 or 4 years isn't exactly spur of the moment. Saints just started back practicing in Metairie this season. Why would you move a team from an area with a city of 2 million to a state of 2 million. If the Saints were going anywhere they were going to go to San Antonio and that was very slim to none. the Saints dynamic is too intertwined with New Orleans culture to exist anywhere else. Do you know how much it would cost to bring Memorial to Dome standards? You would have to tear it down and start new. Also, as long as Deuce is making deals with HRI you might want to follow that money, because a good chunk of it will go to Louisiana. Where do you think King Ed is run from?


Seriously, how old are you?
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Old 01-14-2010, 04:01 PM
 
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If somebody can put a Resort in the middle of the woods of Mississippi Pearl River Resort - Choctaw, MS, then 6 Flags Inc. can put a theme park(even a small one) in Jackson. you can't tell me it can't be done. Jackson has over 200,000 people in the metro and I guarantee every last one of them will go to it over the course of a year. guaranteed.

the petition is going to the City Council AND 6 Flags Inc. we want honest answers from both sides as to why we can't or can get this in Jackson. everything points to a positive outcome. most of the people who've signed are college to mid-20's types so that's a good sign.
They put about a dozen casinos in the middle of cotton fields in what was once the poorest county in the nation, but that isn't the same as a theme park.

Tunica would be a much more viable location, being close to a metro area of 1.3 million, more people within a 200 mile radius of Tunica than Jackson, AND the casinos already draw people to Tunica. A theme park isn't there and there is a reason.
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Old 01-14-2010, 04:03 PM
 
Location: Jackson, MS
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Saints just started back practicing in Metairie this season. Why would you move a team from an area with a city of 2 million to a state of 2 million
We have ALMOST 3 million now, thank you very much!

[just trying to add a little humor to an otherwise over-tense discussion ]
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Old 01-14-2010, 04:12 PM
 
Location: New Orleans, United States
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We have ALMOST 3 million now, thank you very much!

[just trying to add a little humor to an otherwise over-tense discussion ]
Uh oh, maybe it is time for 6 flags.

Seriously, I recently posted migration trends on the city vs. city forum that showed that Mississippi is a big destination for people moving out of suburban NOLA. I think there's a large influx from suburban Memphis as well.
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Old 01-14-2010, 04:38 PM
 
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OneJackson, I wish you luck and I really hope you can get a theme park in Jackson. I would go, and others I know would too.
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Old 01-15-2010, 08:11 AM
 
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No, I'm asking why is there nowhere to spend money in Mississippi.
because there isn't. only things to do in Jackson are:

1. Eat at the same limited number of restaurants
2. hang out at the house with friends playing spades and dominos

that's it.

the museums are around town but that's mainly for old folks and tourists to get nostalgic when they come down for a couple days for christmas and thanksgiving. that's not for the everyday locals.

Jackson doesn't have a place where people of all ages can "go to" anymore. it used to be places like Riverside park, Battlefield Park, the Rez, Metrocenter and Northpark but the cops shut all of that down so there's really nothing to do in Jackson except get in trouble. no wonder the crime is bad.

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3 or 4 years isn't exactly spur of the moment. Saints just started back practicing in Metairie this season. Why would you move a team from an area with a city of 2 million to a state of 2 million. If the Saints were going anywhere they were going to go to San Antonio and that was very slim to none. the Saints dynamic is too intertwined with New Orleans culture to exist anywhere else. Do you know how much it would cost to bring Memorial to Dome standards? You would have to tear it down and start new. Also, as long as Deuce is making deals with HRI you might want to follow that money, because a good chunk of it will go to Louisiana. Where do you think King Ed is run from?
New Orleans and Jackson are blood relatives. so many people I know got family in New Orleans and vice versa. it could work. the whole state would be in Jackson for games then...lol...so what, build a new staidum. give Benson all the tax breaks he can stand.

it takes money to make money.

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Old 01-15-2010, 08:48 AM
 
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First step is Yall gotta stop being so negative. maybe this is why Mississippi is dead last on everything. It seems Most the people of Jackson are always looking for a way to shoot an idea down before they look into the possibilities. Nothing ever came from nothing. You gotta have some vision and hope and desire to want something.

Duece didn't come to Jackson and help refurbish the King Edward just out the blue you know. It was people like me talking to people like him and convincing him to get involved and help a sinking ship like Jackson stay afloat. Duece deserves the Key to the City if you ask me. If it wasn't for him the King Edward would be the Carter on New Jack City by now...lol...People in Jackson always wanna "find the money" to do something, when sometimes you have to give before you can get. as in tax breaks, etc...

Ironically, this thread has the same vibe I got years ago when I lead a charge to help some local musicians protest WJMI for being so "weak" and not in tune with the youth and not supporting the locals. Those naysayers said the same things "it won't work, WJMI ain't gonna listen to you". All I did was go around and tell the young people spread the word, "Turn off the radio, play a CD, WJMI is not for me". Some still boycott WJMI to this very day and ONLY play CD's. Next thing you know, Ernie saw those numbers slipping and he opened up his wallet, Moved to Madison, got new digs, re-tooled WJMI's image and started playing Hip Hop. Even started to play some of the same local artists that I advocated for. Now their quality of life is much better. That was a landmark movement that nobody knew was brewing and it happend just off word of mouth. no petitions. Don't underestimate the power of the people.

So all this "what we can't do" is very telling of the attitudes of the people of Jackson...a telling irony indeed because the signatures have slowed tremendously. only 50 in the last two days. Bold New City with Soul huh?

OKAAY
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Old 01-15-2010, 08:57 AM
 
Location: New Orleans, United States
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because there isn't. only things to do in Jackson are:

1. Eat at the same limited number of restaurants
2. hang out at the house with friends playing spades and dominos

that's it.

the museums are around town but that's mainly for old folks and tourists to get nostalgic when they come down for a couple days for christmas and thanksgiving. that's not for the everyday locals.

Jackson doesn't have a place where people of all ages can "go to" anymore. it used to be places like Riverside park, Battlefield Park, the Rez, Metrocenter and Northpark but the cops shut all of that down so there's really nothing to do in Jackson except get in trouble. no wonder the crime is bad.
I'm asking you why is there nothing there. You've made it clear that there isn't, so I'm asking you why is it this way.


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New Orleans and Jackson are blood relatives. so many people I know got family in New Orleans and vice versa. it could work. the whole state would be in Jackson for games then...lol...so what, build a new staidum. give Benson all the tax breaks he can stand.

it takes money to make money.
Trust me if they are related, they are very distant cousins. Nothing alike, different culture, people are nothing alike, etc. If any city is related to NO it's Houston and that's even before the storm.
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