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Unread 01-21-2010, 03:49 PM
 
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entrepreneur: one who organizes, manages, and assumes the risks of a business or enterprise

Businesses exist to make money or to provide support (money or otherwise) to other entities. While I can see how printing up a bunch fo slogan shirts and giving them away might provide some amount of exposure, I fail to see how they can provide any level of sustainability. IOW that ain't much of a business, and if the person doing this had that as his only plan, has not much of that "entrepreneurial spirit."

I learned enough in the dot-bomb to know "branding" means nothing. This is a city you're talking about; if the goal is to attract new investment, investments MUST first be made.
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Unread 01-21-2010, 04:16 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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entrepreneur: one who organizes, manages, and assumes the risks of a business or enterprise

Businesses exist to make money or to provide support (money or otherwise) to other entities. While I can see how printing up a bunch fo slogan shirts and giving them away might provide some amount of exposure, I fail to see how they can provide any level of sustainability. IOW that ain't much of a business, and if the person doing this had that as his only plan, has not much of that "entrepreneurial spirit."

I learned enough in the dot-bomb to know "branding" means nothing. This is a city you're talking about; if the goal is to attract new investment, investments MUST first be made.
Partially true.... A "brand" - whatever you want to call it - a definite identity, whatever, is vital to create a cohesive community. Something to identify with. The more people you have onboard, the more things are possible!
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Unread 01-21-2010, 04:20 PM
 
Location: New Orleans, United States
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Partially true.... A "brand" - whatever you want to call it - a definite identity, whatever, is vital to create a cohesive community. Something to identify with. The more people you have onboard, the more things are possible!
You can invest and build, but if people don't have a reason to come they won't come.
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Unread 01-21-2010, 04:37 PM
 
Location: New Orleans, United States
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That's the thing - there's an existing creek that runs under Downtown called Town Creek [literally, it runs under the streets and some buildings], so the drainage is not an issue. You can see the creek on this map, where it goes underground from the north at Griffith Street and emerges from the south at Court Street - a distance of over 1/2 mile.
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Interesting. Are there any plans available for this?
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Unread 01-21-2010, 05:31 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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You can invest and build, but if people don't have a reason to come they won't come.
You've got to start SOMEWHERE, and "branding" is as good a place as any. Lays the groundwork, psychologically.
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Unread 01-21-2010, 06:24 PM
 
Location: Jackson, MS
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Interesting. Are there any plans available for this?
I haven't seen a plan released beyond what can be seen in the news video. Hopefully it will be available to the public soon. Here's an additional article with a partial rendering:
Mississippi Business Journal Blog Archive Can Jackson…Walk the walk? (Update)

One plus to this development is that it would be completely isolated from the Two Lakes plan and the levees plan, as it is not located on the Pearl River nor does it intend to act as flood control for the river. It is simply a development for recreational purposes that would make a positive economic impact in Jackson, so it can happen with or without any other plan that occurs in the Pearl River basin.
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Unread 01-21-2010, 07:30 PM
 
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You can invest and build, but if people don't have a reason to come they won't come.
Victory Park in Dallas is a perfect example of "building it and they DONT come"
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Unread 01-22-2010, 01:28 AM
 
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Like Conan at 11:35...
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Unread 01-22-2010, 07:21 PM
 
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Interesting comments !!!

Looking at the population numbers, yeah I can see a city like Jackson being able to support an AMUSEMENT park since there are a good number of cities that are around the same size as Jackson if not smaller who do support such parks. Sure Dallas and San Antonio have Six Flags and the Houston area has Kemah Boardwalk but El Paso, Lubbock and Amarillo have parks too though they are on the small size but such sized parks should be able to do quite well in a city the size of Jackson.

The tourists..well try to be a hit with the locals first then try to get the tourists later. To begin as a THEME park right off the bat..well the track record isn't so hot actually it is a turn off even for the big guys like like Six Flags or Cedar Fair to notice. Look at such parks like the former Hard Rock Park in Myrtle Beach or Wild West World in Kansas. Alabama Adventures/Visionland I believe had serious money woes over the years and that Magic Springs Theme Park in Hot Springs, Arkansas was actually closed for a number years and even though they are open now from what I have read on those theme park sites, they too are having money woes. And its the same in much bigger markets. Six Flags New Orleans ( and Jazzland before that )...money issues even BEFORE Katrina. Denver's Elitch Gardens and Buffalo's Dairen Lake Theme Park came within DAYS of being shut down for good only to be saved by a new owner. Libertyland in Memphis ( I guess this was a theme park )..DEFUNCT !!!

Nah the best route for Jackson to take if they want to get into the amusement park business is to look at parks in such cities like Albuquerque, Erie and Bowling Green, Kentucky. Cater to local first on a small scale and if its a hit THEN spend the money on bigger rides and then go after the tourists . Thats exactly what the parks in those places did and even with nearby competition all of them all of them are doing quite well today unlike that so-called Hard Rock Park...no wait FREESTYLE Park or whatever it is called now..opened for only two years they still aren't sure if they will make it a third. Jackson or anyplace else for that matter doesn't need that kind of drama.
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Unread 01-22-2010, 08:17 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Interesting comments !!!

Looking at the population numbers, yeah I can see a city like Jackson being able to support an AMUSEMENT park since there are a good number of cities that are around the same size as Jackson if not smaller who do support such parks. Sure Dallas and San Antonio have Six Flags and the Houston area has Kemah Boardwalk but El Paso, Lubbock and Amarillo have parks too though they are on the small size but such sized parks should be able to do quite well in a city the size of Jackson.

The tourists..well try to be a hit with the locals first then try to get the tourists later. To begin as a THEME park right off the bat..well the track record isn't so hot actually it is a turn off even for the big guys like like Six Flags or Cedar Fair to notice. Look at such parks like the former Hard Rock Park in Myrtle Beach or Wild West World in Kansas. Alabama Adventures/Visionland I believe had serious money woes over the years and that Magic Springs Theme Park in Hot Springs, Arkansas was actually closed for a number years and even though they are open now from what I have read on those theme park sites, they too are having money woes. And its the same in much bigger markets. Six Flags New Orleans ( and Jazzland before that )...money issues even BEFORE Katrina. Denver's Elitch Gardens and Buffalo's Dairen Lake Theme Park came within DAYS of being shut down for good only to be saved by a new owner. Libertyland in Memphis ( I guess this was a theme park )..DEFUNCT !!!

Nah the best route for Jackson to take if they want to get into the amusement park business is to look at parks in such cities like Albuquerque, Erie and Bowling Green, Kentucky. Cater to local first on a small scale and if its a hit THEN spend the money on bigger rides and then go after the tourists . Thats exactly what the parks in those places did and even with nearby competition all of them all of them are doing quite well today unlike that so-called Hard Rock Park...no wait FREESTYLE Park or whatever it is called now..opened for only two years they still aren't sure if they will make it a third. Jackson or anyplace else for that matter doesn't need that kind of drama.
The Hard Rock (now Freestyle) park in Myrtle Beach was a HUGE investment, but was just timed badly. Who knew when it was being planned that the economy would tank just as it opened its doors? Myrtle Beach is a mega-tourist area, not really the same as a Jackson-type city. It's been hit harder than non-tourist cities in the recession. If the economic picture had been better when Hard Rock opened, I'm sure that story would have been MUCH different.
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