Crime in Jacksonville (Miami, Orange Park: work, sick, house)

[Grego]

Clay County
Crime | Number
Total | 5,124
Murder | 4
Rape | 34
Robbery | 61
Aggravated Assault | 399
Burglary | 455
Larceny - theft | 3,942
Motor vehicle thefts | 205
Population | 135,436
Coverage indicator | 100%

St John County
Crime | Number
Total | 4,190
Murder | 9
Rape | 26
Robbery | 58
Aggravated Assault | 493
Burglary | 781
Larceny - theft | 2,614
Motor vehicle thefts | 195
Population | 123,135
Coverage indicator | 100%

Duval County
Crime | Number
Total | 54,452
Murder | 82
Rape | 464
Robbery | 2,119
Aggravated Assault | 5,842
Burglary | 10,430
Larceny - theft | 30,491
Motor vehicle thefts | 4,687
Population | 777,245
Coverage indicator | 100%

3 county NE FL Stats
63,766 total
95 murder
524 rape
2,238 robbery
6,734 Ag assault
11,666 burglary
37,047 theft
5,087 motor theft
1,040,708 pop

------------------------------------------------------------------

Hills County
Crime | Number
Total | 71,781
Murder | 76
Rape | 577
Robbery | 3,099
Aggravated Assault | 7,511
Burglary | 12,169
Larceny - theft | 37,837
Motor vehicle thefts | 10,179
Population | 998,948
Coverage indicator | 100%

Pin County
Crime | Number
Total | 49,668
Murder | 34
Rape | 441
Robbery | 1,605
Aggravated Assault | 5,371
Burglary | 9,082
Larceny - theft | 28,952
Motor vehicle thefts | 3,874
Population | 921,482
Coverage indicator | 100%

Pin, Hills county stats
121,449 total
110 murder
1,018 rape
4,704 robbery
12,882 Ag assault
21,251 burglary
66,789 theft
14,053 motor theft
1,920,430 pop

[Duvalboy]

Originally Posted by kimba1300@yahoo.com

Hi there! My family is thinking of moving to the jax area and really want to know if Jax is a redneck baptist conservative racist city. Although I believe every one has a right to their own opinions I dont want to be in a place that is obviously concervative. I would really like your opinion. Other suggestions on better northern Fla cities. We are a mixed race family and really want tomove to Fla.. Thanks Kim

I wouldnt worry about that redneck problem if I were you , you should worry more about crime but I aint seen but 2 rednecks since I been livin here but that aint no problem the outrageous crime is

[fromcenFL]

The lyrics at the link....... very scary.

[backtofla]

yes, but i would imagine that st johns co and clay co have pretty low crime. jax is accounting for most of the 3 ne fla crime stats. and even then i think jax crime is mostly in a couple areas. northwestern quadrant from what i've heard.

[kort677]

Originally Posted by backtofla

yes, but i would imagine that st johns co and clay co have pretty low crime. jax is accounting for most of the 3 ne fla crime stats. and even then i think jax crime is mostly in a couple areas. northwestern quadrant from what i've heard.

there's plenty of petty crime in the beaches, and there's crime in the best parts of the southside also, but it appears that the majority of shootings and other violent crimes happen in the NW, low income = low intelligence = low behavior

[WestsideWoman]

Hello there, the crime rate in Jacksonville is clearly the drugs and the drug houses. The investors are buying up homes and renting them to drug dealers and they become drug houses with prostitution. This is the problem in Jax , all areas as well as other cities....... People get older, their kids sell the houses for nothing to these investors and here we go. In my neighborhood on the Westside, we now here the helicopter fly overs, the gun shots ring out all hours day or night, and we can see the thugs.. Noone will do their part and go to the sub station, turn in addresses , car tags and that would help. They sit at home scared like all areas and turn their cheeks. That will not rid it. You must do your part to stop crime. It takes us all.. You can call or report at a sub station and remain unknown. Its your right.. Call, report, fight back... Or let the thugs take it all.. Thats why Jax has issues , noone is doing their part to help our police do their job. We have to tell them whos doing what, where and how. I work fulltime and I report everything I can. I do my part . But it takes more than one... Thanks.. REport to sub stations.

[WestsideWoman]

If you think the westside is all that.. Open your door at night and go to sleep. We did when we were kids.. Open windows, no alarms.. Walked our dogs and talked to neighbors. Its not like that now. Murray Hill,, Born and raised... Investors and the problem... Buying these homes and renting to anyone... Our neighborhood is turning raw.Bars on windows at the minute marts..I grew up next door to my home I live in now as an adult.. I can tell you about my neighborhood..... Live in yours for some years then tell us what,when how.... I have three men in prison for robbery, car jacking and they shot me too... I can tell you about the horror story.........

[LM1]

Originally Posted by sunrico90

This is a new report from Jville, how foreclosures are directly increasing the crime scene.


Start Video


First Coast News

JACKSONVILLE, FL -- A close examination of the numbers shows foreclosed homes in the city are in the same areas where many murders take place.

The Jacksonville Area Legal Aid held a news conference to draw attention to that relationship and the problem with its sees with predatory lending.

***** is a 55 year-old grandmother who faces losing her home. Legal aid is providing assistance as the non profit group believes she's a victim of predatory lending.

***** says of the foreclosure experience, "It was a real nightmare. Your dream of owning your own home and threat of losing it."

Legal aid in researching the numbers found the highest murder levels are also the zip codes with the highest foreclosure rates.

Zip codes 32206, 32208 and 32209 had nine, nine and eleven murders so far this year.

***** who heads up Legal Aid says, "Less foreclosures as the study says equals less murder, more foreclosures equals more murders."
****

All due respect, but Logic 101- correlation doesn't imply causation.
The people at Jax Legal Aid (presumably good albeit idealistic people who are typical of most attorneys at any given legal aid clinic in any major city) who suggest this are typical of the delusional rationalizers who will do everything in their power to reassign the responsibility for crime to anyone or anything other than the people who are committing it.

To validly correlate homicides to foreclosures, one would have to examine the murders that have occurred in Jacksonville and then establish whether the murderers were presently in a state of foreclosure, or if their foreclosure could reasonably be assigned as a motivator to their crime.
To make a suggestion like "foreclosures are higher in zip code X and so are homicides thus foreclosures = homicides" is just so unbelievably stupid that I have a hard time believing that someone with Jax Legal Aid actually said that.

Foreclosures are common to poor financial managers.
Foreclosures are also common to people in the lower economic strata.
Increase in crime rates is also common to these same people, including homicide.
Moderator cut: edited for racial comment

This DOES NOT in any way, shape or form mean "foreclosures cause homicides" or "foreclosures cause crime", however, I would wager that those who are likely to engage in criminal activity are more likely to have their homes foreclosed for reasons having nothing to do with the crimes they choose to commit.

[MzNeekie]

The crime rate in Jacksonville has risen to ridiculous amounts as of 2007. We weren't the city of saints before 2007 but, the increase is amazing. I believe that at least in part, this is due to alot of hurricane Katrina evacuees moving here. Based on the reputation (merely word of mouth) of places like New Orleans and other areas that were hit ALONG with the attitudes of these Duval cats, I can definitely see how the mix would be a recipe for disaster. It may not be the entire cause but it definitely contributed to the number of murders in my opinion. Any other people from Jax have views on this?

[woofdog]

To kimba1300@yahoo.com

I'm not certain of the best way to respond to someone who is so afraid of encountering examples of the terrible redneck, conservative, Baptists, and particularly those who might be, in your view, racist. I qualify for three of those categories, being a "redneck" (generally defined as a person who spent much of his or her life, bending to the task at hand, with sun exposure creating a "red neck"); conservative in my political views; and a Baptist. Up to this point in my life, I've slaughtered none of my neighbors or family members. I haven't committed any armed robberies, rapes, burglaries, carjackings, child molestations, or any other crime that would condemn me, even with my conservative, Baptist beliefs. I honorably served the US Marine Corps for 24 active duty years, have volunteered for the past 17 years for a variety of community causes, have seen three children through college at least to their bachelor's degrees, with one going on to become a physician, one an attorney, and one a state employee. I'm very much like the average person in America, and certainly in Jacksonville, in that I want what's best for my family, my community, and my country.

You may well rest assured that, given a choice, those who believe as I do would probably prefer to not be burdened with the presence of a person with a mind as closed as yours appears to be, since we are a diverse, multi-racial, multi-ethnic, multi-religion bunch of "rednecks", who easily tolerate those who wish to assimilate. For those who would seek to divide us for our differences, rather than to unite us for our similarities, entry to our ranks may be a bit difficult.

Oh, by the way. My ancestors came from Africa, with their dark skin now worn by me and all in my family, so it's possible that the precise definition of "redneck" doesn't apply to me in every context, but I do hope you can please save your fears of racism for others who prefer to fear their neighbor rather than to enjoy the same.

Enjoy God's blessings.