New property tax proposal? (Jacksonville: income, cost, radio)

[floridasandy]

Originally Posted by riveree

Correct, trailers are already taxed at a lower rate, but this will give trailers another tax break that single family homeowners will not receive in this amendment - in that regard it is not even across the board.

What I'm suggesting is if we are worried about people who live in trailers because they might be in a lower economic class, then why don't we just address that lower economic class, why are we saying 'this break is for trailers only'? Why not just give to everyone whose home is valued at under $200k?

It's curious, that's all.

what is curious to me is that some people are voting no based on the fact that they hope the politicians will come up with something else! they barely got this done! our current politicians are useless in this state and we cannot count on them to come up with something else.

[riveree]

Originally Posted by floridasandy

what is curious to me is that some people are voting no based on the fact that they hope the politicians will come up with something else! they barely got this done! our current politicians are useless in this state and we cannot count on them to come up with something else.

Maybe some are. For myself, it's a number of reasons. I think the first proposal was transparent in its' intent, and I did not agree with it. This second proposal was better, but I think it still has some fatal flaws.

I guess we'll know shortly how it all turns out.

[floridasandy]

it passed but we absolutely need to do more! this cannot be the end of property tax reform for florida. at least the politicians can see that floridians are fed up with their wasteful spending. they will have more money coming in from the indian casinos so there is no excuse to cut any services.

[travelingfood]

Originally Posted by floridasandy

it passed but we absolutely need to do more! this cannot be the end of property tax reform for florida. at least the politicians can see that floridians are fed up with their wasteful spending. they will have more money coming in from the indian casinos so there is no excuse to cut any services.

They ought to build more Indian casinos then.

[bale002]

Originally Posted by floridasandy

... at least the politicians can see that Floridians are fed up with their wasteful spending. they will have more money coming in from the indian casinos so there is no excuse to cut any services.

Are you sure that they are receiving this message?

The message they receive may also be that they can dupe the majority of Floridians with a sop, on the one hand, and reward the blessed few, on the other.

I believe that the only way to make sure that they get the message on wasteful spending is for ordinary citizens to bombard them with acrimonious complaints and referendum proposals for laws that cap local government spending, analogous to laws which cap increases in assessed property values, threatening them with the vote if they do not act concretely with binding legislation within two years.

[travelingfood]

Now that it's passed...how long of a wait for it to materialize into something more tangible?
Interesting in the paper it said Duval voted opposite of what rest of Floridian voted for.

[mawipafl]

Originally Posted by bale002

I believe that the only way to make sure that they get the message on wasteful spending is for ordinary citizens to bombard them with acrimonious complaints and referendum proposals for laws that cap local government spending, analogous to laws which cap increases in assessed property values, threatening them with the vote if they do not act concretely with binding legislation within two years.

Massachusetts with Proposition 2 1/2
Proposition 2½ - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

and California with Proposition 13
California Proposition 13 (1978) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I can't speak for the effects on California, but MA voters did it more than 25 years ago and the commonwealth didn't cave in and implode.

[SANDYHAIR]

I don't see fl having many people from out of state moving in .If they have to pay higher taxes.How will that work

[joninclay]

Originally Posted by SANDYHAIR

I don't see fl having many people from out of state moving in .If they have to pay higher taxes.How will that work

The only way that would work, Sandy, is if they are moving to FL from a state that has a higher tax burden (NJ, NY, etc.).

If they're considering moving here from, say Indiana (or any other low cost-of-living state), then you are correct in that this would give them pause.

[riveree]

Originally Posted by travelingfood

Now that it's passed...how long of a wait for it to materialize into something more tangible?
Interesting in the paper it said Duval voted opposite of what rest of Floridian voted for.

Well, it's retroactive to January 1, 2008, so technically it's already "in effect", but I don't know how they'll handle this year's property tax since now they overcharged many of us?

Yeah, it's kind of sad that Duval (and I think there was one other county) was all alone in voting against this.

Ah well, it is what it, we'll see how it goes I guess.