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Old 01-11-2013, 10:02 AM
 
Location: SW France
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I certainly agree that in the past things were dire for a number of reasons but nowadays more cars are being produced in the UK than ever before and producing good reliable vehicles.

I haven't been to the Jaguar factory in years but it was great to see some of the craftsmen at work- shame about the electrics.

It will be interesting to see how the new Range Rover stands up. I also agree that Land Rover's reliability leaves something to be desired.
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Old 01-11-2013, 10:57 AM
 
Location: Texas
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My friend has worked on airplanes and cars for decades.
He says part of the fun and adventure of a Range Rover is that you never know if you're going to get where you're going.

I think he's kidding...

As for why, he says it's because they are overengineered. So while they have tons of cool stuff, woe is you when that cool stuff falls apart.
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Old 01-11-2013, 11:16 AM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Just curious. While the list does report that Jaguar is at the bottom of the list, how many issues do you think they have that will leave you stranded on the side of the road.

I don't know, but I wouldn't want to pay Jaguar money to find out.
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Old 01-11-2013, 11:33 AM
 
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As long as Jaguar is built in England, with English labor, it will never be a reliable car.
I've four British cars and none of them have given me any problems....
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Old 01-11-2013, 12:20 PM
 
Location: Central Jersey - Florida
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I've four British cars and none of them have given me any problems....
I had one British car (a 68 Triumph GT6) and gave me nothing but problems, but I still loved to drive it! BTW: Who was that guy LUCAS and what did he know about ELECTRONICS?
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Old 01-11-2013, 12:54 PM
 
Location: Central Texas
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I've four British cars and none of them have given me any problems....
I think your standards must be low.

No UK built car sold in the US has EVER been judged reliable or well built. No Triumph, no MG, no Rover, no Range Rover, no Jaguar, no Austin Healey, no Lotus, no Jensen.

Only Mini, in the last decade, has some respectability for reliability. But they are mixed in quality, though fun to drive and popular.

Aston Martin is respected, as is Rolls Royce, but those cars are hardly judged by the same standards as more ordinary cars.

Only French and Italian cars have a historically worse reputation in the US overall.

I still like some of these British cars though.
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Old 01-11-2013, 01:08 PM
 
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I think your standards must be low.
I wouldn't consider them to be low..

Here's what they are:

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Old 01-11-2013, 01:10 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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I wouldn't consider them to be low..

Here's what they are:
I wasn't a fan of older pre 2004ish Astons but that Vantage is gorgeous.
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Old 01-11-2013, 02:06 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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I wondered why they'd built it given that they have the XK.
It's smaller than the XK and intended to fill a slot below the XK. Think of the XK as competing with the likes of BMW M6 whereas the F-type would compete more with the M3 coupe.

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Old 01-11-2013, 02:16 PM
 
Location: Whittier
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I wouldn't consider them to be low..

Here's what they are:
I don't think he means your standards in taste but rather, reliability.

Vintage British cars, especially in the states are well known for headaches. Primarily non stop leaks and dodgy electrics (I've been watching too much Wheeler Dealers) that add "character" to the vehicle.

Anyway, I really like the F type, and like that it's a bit smaller than the XK (even though I really like the XKR, it's just too big.)
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