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Old 01-11-2013, 02:23 PM
 
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No matter how you slice it, British cars just have not fared well in the U.S. in terms of reliability. Heck, even when they tried to take a Honda and put a British badge on it they still managed to kack it up.

While they've certainly improved over the last couple decades, so has everyone else; so their relative position on the reliability scale hasn't changed much. So even today, buying a British marque is more an act of passion or devotion than a practical decision.
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Old 01-11-2013, 02:34 PM
 
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I don't think he means your standards in taste but rather, reliability.

Vintage British cars, especially in the states are well known for headaches. Primarily non stop leaks and dodgy electrics (I've been watching too much Wheeler Dealers) that add "character" to the vehicle.

Anyway, I really like the F type, and like that it's a bit smaller than the XK (even though I really like the XKR, it's just too big.)
I agree, especially on the "vintage" part. I've owned a couple of MGs a Jensen Interceptor and a Daimler Sovereign in the past and they all had the odd issue. Elec's on the Daimler and the MGs (no surprise, the joys of BL) and a bloody awful engine/carb set up on the Jensen. The Brit cars i've had issues with in regards to reliability have all been 'older' cars.

More modern British manufactured cars have (for me anyway) been no less reliable than other European and Japanese brands i've owned. I think the dark days (pun intended) of British based automotive manufacturing are in the past.
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Old 01-11-2013, 02:40 PM
 
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Were the Ford Jaguars of a better quality than before or after? I always assumed they were. Is Jaguar still selling any models that were created by Ford?
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Old 01-11-2013, 02:57 PM
 
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More modern British manufactured cars have (for me anyway) been no less reliable than other European and Japanese brands i've owned. I think the dark days (pun intended) of British based automotive manufacturing are in the past.
Anything to support this? Are there any reliability survey results or rankings in the UK similar to what we have here in the States?
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Old 01-11-2013, 03:08 PM
 
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Anything to support this? Are there any reliability survey results or rankings in the UK similar to what we have here in the States?
Yes.

JD Power survey 2012 - The results - What Car?

Top 100 UK Cars | Reliability Index | How reliable is your car? (I believe that all in the top 10 bar the KIA the Volvo and one of the Suzuki's are made in the UK).
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Old 01-11-2013, 03:52 PM
 
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No matter how you slice it, British cars just have not fared well in the U.S. in terms of reliability. Heck, even when they tried to take a Honda and put a British badge on it they still managed to kack it up.

While they've certainly improved over the last couple decades, so has everyone else; so their relative position on the reliability scale hasn't changed much. So even today, buying a British marque is more an act of passion or devotion than a practical decision.
My Civic SI was built in Swindon, and had the infamous faulty steering rack. To be honest, other than that the car was OK.
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Old 01-11-2013, 04:53 PM
 
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From the site baldrick referenced, Manufacturer Ratings - Car Reliability Index | Reliability Index | How reliable is your car?

Jaguar and LandRover on the bottom again.

Wrt the JD Power Survey result:

How was the overall score decided?
Each category was weighted according to how important owners rated it. The total scores awarded by owners were split as follows: vehicle quality and reliability (22%), vehicle appeal (31%), dealer service satisfaction (22%) and ownership costs (25%).
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Old 01-11-2013, 05:18 PM
 
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My Civic SI was built in Swindon, and had the infamous faulty steering rack. To be honest, other than that the car was OK.
I'm not talking about where a car was assembled, I'm just talking about British marques. No matter where it was built, your Civic is basically Japanese and it was largely designed and engineered in Japan, with a Japanese company in charge of designing the manufacturing process and facilities and quality control, et cetera.

The bit I was referring to about British Hondas is when Rover tried to re-enter the U.S. market in the late '80s with a new marque called Sterling. The enterprise involved taking a bunch of Rover 825's and putting a "Sterling" badge on 'em. Even though they were basically worked-over Hondas, they still somehow managed to be colossally terrible cars while their Acura-badged counterparts were a big success that helped establish the then-new Acura marque. Sterling lasted 5 years; Acura is still here.
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