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Old 01-03-2018, 07:53 AM
 
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I think you don't understand the purpose. Many employers require that you take a drug test for employment. The ides behind this is that if you're on drugs, then you're not ready and willing to be hired, since you cannot be hired unless you pass a drug test.

It was a way of verifying that people are still able to be hired.

In all practicality, it's a waste of $$ and time. THey can't go around testing 3 million people regularly.
And many employers don't drug test so that seems to be an irrelevant point. And let's not play stupid games and act like Hatch is just looking out for people and making sure they are ready to work. This is all about punishing people that don't tend to support his political agenda.

I have been working for several decades and not once have I had to take a drug test. I will not work for any employer that thinks that I need to be drug tested in order to do my job. I don't work in a safety sensitive position and the notion that every cubicle rat working a keyboard has to be drug tested to keep society functional is completely ridiculous.
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Old 01-03-2018, 08:06 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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And many employers don't drug test so that seems to be an irrelevant point. And let's not play stupid games and act like Hatch is just looking out for people and making sure they are ready to work. This is all about punishing people that don't tend to support his political agenda.

I have been working for several decades and not once have I had to take a drug test. I will not work for any employer that thinks that I need to be drug tested in order to do my job. I don't work in a safety sensitive position and the notion that every cubicle rat working a keyboard has to be drug tested to keep society functional is completely ridiculous.
Most stoners and druggies don't vote so....
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Old 01-03-2018, 11:49 AM
 
Location: Jacksonville, FL
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Most stoners and druggies don't vote so....
And how many stoners or druggies do you personally know in order to make this claim?

Fact is, I know a lot of people who work in high-level professions - doctors, nurses, lawyers, big business - who partake of marijuana frequently. They function quite well in their professions, and yes, they do vote.

Back in the day, I went to see The Grateful Dead on what turned out to be their last tour before Jerry Garcia died. It was at an outdoor venue (Riverport Amphitheatre outside of St. Louis, MO). Seated around me on the lawn were 4 couples who we got to know a bit before the show started: A doctor and nurse who were husband and wife, a lawyer who was there with his wife, another doctor who was married to a school teacher, and another lawyer (who was friends with the first) and his wife (also a lawyer). Every single couple around us was baked before we were 4 songs in.

You can pretend that all stoners and druggies are unemployed and just sit at home getting high all day long, but it's just pretending. Drug use crosses all aspects of society and is not limited to only the people that you don't like.
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Old 01-03-2018, 11:51 AM
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Location: Texas
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And many employers don't drug test so that seems to be an irrelevant point. And let's not play stupid games and act like Hatch is just looking out for people and making sure they are ready to work. This is all about punishing people that don't tend to support his political agenda.

I have been working for several decades and not once have I had to take a drug test. I will not work for any employer that thinks that I need to be drug tested in order to do my job. I don't work in a safety sensitive position and the notion that every cubicle rat working a keyboard has to be drug tested to keep society functional is completely ridiculous.
I agree. I once had to take a drug test for a temp office job that lasted two days. It was ridiculous. And some agencies are requiring temps to pay for their own drug test now, to work on an assignment that pays 9 or 10 dollars an hour.
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Old 01-03-2018, 12:07 PM
 
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Most stoners and druggies don't vote so....
so you're saying a fair number of the population of states with legal pot don't vote? ok
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Old 01-03-2018, 11:35 PM
 
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I agree. I once had to take a drug test for a temp office job that lasted two days. It was ridiculous. And some agencies are requiring temps to pay for their own drug test now, to work on an assignment that pays 9 or 10 dollars an hour.
Around here they are making applicants for volunteer positions pay for their background checks. They are required to do these volunteer jobs if they get food stamps and aren't fortunate enough to have a paying employer choose to offer a spot for them. Places around here are getting away with not hiring people for paid employment so that the destitute have to work for free in order to get the food stamps. I guess that's one way to get around minimum wage laws.
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Old 01-04-2018, 11:27 AM
 
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Most stoners and druggies don't vote so....
That may be the case, but many people use pot and are not stoners or druggies, just like all who have a glass of wine are not winos or alcoholics.


If this isn't invasion of privacy and/or illegal search, I don't know what is. Republicans love to say they want government out of people's lives and as small as possible, but it apparently doesn't apply if they don't approve of your lifestyle, whether it's birth control or a joint.


Maybe all the pot smokers should just switch to drinking whiskey, cause drunks make awesome employees.


I have worked with 2-3 people over the past 20 years who we suspected drank at or before work, never worked with anyone who got high at work.
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Old 01-04-2018, 11:40 AM
 
Location: colorado springs, CO
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From the link:

"The goal, he said, is to get users into treatment."

Oh really? Who's going to pay for that? Well, never mind; I think I already know the answer ...
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Old 01-04-2018, 12:30 PM
 
Location: In a vehicle.
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I agree. I once had to take a drug test for a temp office job that lasted two days. It was ridiculous. And some agencies are requiring temps to pay for their own drug test now, to work on an assignment that pays 9 or 10 dollars an hour.
Any agency tells me I have to pay for that, I'll flip them the bird. I have never met an agency that did that.
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Old 01-05-2018, 04:59 PM
 
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No. It doesn't have anything to do with it. You need reasonable cause.
, and the person paid into unemployment and needs the money until finding a job.
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