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Old 07-02-2010, 07:16 PM
 
Location: Northside Of Jacksonville
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Brother Ron, that sucks to be fired but it could be a blessing in disguise. With all you've got on the table, I'd focus on that right now. They showed you their true colors, they were all about the $$.
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Old 07-02-2010, 07:30 PM
 
Location: Whidbey Island, WA
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I'm lost. the guy who attacked you Ron was arrested and he was charged with a crime but you were fired?
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Old 07-02-2010, 09:08 PM
 
Location: In my view finder.....
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I'm lost. the guy who attacked you Ron was arrested and he was charged with a crime but you were fired?
AADAD,

you're not lost.

You got it right.

It is weird. I know it sounds like I am not telling the whole story, but that's it.

The Shelter did not give a damn at all. My mom thinks they probably wanted to get rid of me anyway. I told her maybe, they just did not have any sort of paper trail.

I was never written up or anything.

Here's what they told me: because he had scratches on his face, they think I did it deliberately.

I thought, maybe they have never been in a fight because, when people fight, someone can get hurt. DUH.
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Old 07-02-2010, 09:15 PM
 
Location: In my view finder.....
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Brother Ron, that sucks to be fired but it could be a blessing in disguise. With all you've got on the table, I'd focus on that right now. They showed you their true colors, they were all about the $$.
I have mixed feeling about it. I am glad that I never have to go back but I hate that I don't have an income........for now.

Man, I was miserable working there. So were the clients and staff, meaning, they were miserable people to be around. They always kept Sh*t going. Always.

My coworkers did not care for me that much mainly because I have something that they wish they had---BALLS!

If all goes well with my business this month, I'll be in good shape.
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Old 07-02-2010, 09:17 PM
 
Location: Whidbey Island, WA
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Businesses (any) immediately try to limit their liability. You have a cause for action in this case IMO if you choose to pursue it. Were you just p/t there or are you a licensed social person?
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Old 07-02-2010, 09:22 PM
 
Location: In my view finder.....
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Businesses (any) immediately try to limit their liability. You have a cause for action in this case IMO if you choose to pursue it. Were you just p/t there or are you a licensed social person?
I was full-time.....I was not a Social Worker. I managed the shelter.

I can pursue it. I've already talked to my lawyer. I have a few things I need to have in place first.....working on that now.
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Old 07-02-2010, 09:25 PM
 
Location: In a house
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Just make sure you file for unemployment. As long as they are -not- exempt, they're paying a tax to cover it. Unemployment isn't a handout. It's money that, if Unemployment Insurance wasn't mandatory, would've been part of everyone's paychecks anyway. They don't deduct it from your paycheck, but it's still money they're paying the government on your behalf, that you're not getting, unless you file for it and are approved the payment.

If you don't file within a certain period of time, you lose your right to the claim. I think the window varies from state to state. Plus there is -always- a waiting period, and you get nothing until after a hearing, which can be anywhere from a couple of weeks from now, to well over a month from now. So, your best bet is to file ASAP. Worst thing that happens is, you're not approved. Chances are, you'll be approved, and even if you're not, you can still appeal.

If they don't show up for an appeal hearing, the claim is -usually- granted by default (though not always).

Good luck!
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Old 07-02-2010, 09:30 PM
 
Location: In my view finder.....
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Anon,

I filed my claim on Wednesday.

Since I was fired and not laid off my case has to go to a mediator. He has to hear both sides of the story.

I hear the mediator is a very good lawyer. Hopefully with my police reports as proof and me explaining my side of the story, he will grant me the unemployment. It's basically up to him. I know the Shelter does not want to pay. They made that clear when they fired me. They are just mean people.

I was not aware businesses paid a tax. I always wondered how they came up with the money.



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Just make sure you file for unemployment. As long as they are -not- exempt, they're paying a tax to cover it. Unemployment isn't a handout. It's money that, if Unemployment Insurance wasn't mandatory, would've been part of everyone's paychecks anyway. They don't deduct it from your paycheck, but it's still money they're paying the government on your behalf, that you're not getting, unless you file for it and are approved the payment.

If you don't file within a certain period of time, you lose your right to the claim. I think the window varies from state to state. Plus there is -always- a waiting period, and you get nothing until after a hearing, which can be anywhere from a couple of weeks from now, to well over a month from now. So, your best bet is to file ASAP. Worst thing that happens is, you're not approved. Chances are, you'll be approved, and even if you're not, you can still appeal.

If they don't show up for an appeal hearing, the claim is -usually- granted by default (though not always).

Good luck!
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Old 07-03-2010, 05:53 AM
 
Location: In a house
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The shelter is paying for -all- "non-exempt" employees (unless it is an exempt company). It's a federally mandated tax to cover the insurance pool premiums. The premiums go up when they lose claims but as far as I know it's a very marginal amount if it's just one person leaving the company. I've collected several times, and in most cases the employer doesn't even show up to the hearing. Sometimes they'll send a written statement, and in my state we also have telephone interviews. But if the employer doesn't actively contest the claim, then the ex-employee will almost always win it.

If the employer actively contests the claim, they have to prove that the ex-employee violated policy. Being fired doesn't mean you can't collect. It just means you have to actually put in some effort to win your case. Sometimes it's as easy as telling the mediator "I never got an employee handbook, so I never knew that what I did was against the company rule." I did that once. Automatic win for me, the mediator asked the guy if it was true, he said they had employee handbooks but they were in the process of being revised and weren't in the office. Employer had no proof these handbooks existed, I said I never got one, case closed. I get my unemployment
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Old 07-03-2010, 06:57 AM
 
Location: In my view finder.....
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Hopefully things will fall in my favor.


That place made me sick......just think, I'd be going there tonight. Never again. I really disliked that place. I knew my days were numbered........





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The shelter is paying for -all- "non-exempt" employees (unless it is an exempt company). It's a federally mandated tax to cover the insurance pool premiums. The premiums go up when they lose claims but as far as I know it's a very marginal amount if it's just one person leaving the company. I've collected several times, and in most cases the employer doesn't even show up to the hearing. Sometimes they'll send a written statement, and in my state we also have telephone interviews. But if the employer doesn't actively contest the claim, then the ex-employee will almost always win it.

If the employer actively contests the claim, they have to prove that the ex-employee violated policy. Being fired doesn't mean you can't collect. It just means you have to actually put in some effort to win your case. Sometimes it's as easy as telling the mediator "I never got an employee handbook, so I never knew that what I did was against the company rule." I did that once. Automatic win for me, the mediator asked the guy if it was true, he said they had employee handbooks but they were in the process of being revised and weren't in the office. Employer had no proof these handbooks existed, I said I never got one, case closed. I get my unemployment
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