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Old 07-18-2010, 12:34 PM
 
Location: US, California - federalist
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Many drugs are already legal. Consider that alcohol causes more deaths every year than did the terrorists in the worst "attack" on American soil in modern times?

Why do you believe that we would be any worse with legal Commerce than with our current War on Drugs? Can you cite any evidence that supports your contention in any other sector? Consider that if we are not wasting money on a Drug War, that money could be used to pay for actually eliminating poverty. If there is no poverty in our republic, why would there be any people willing to commit crimes for drugs, since they would have money to buy drugs at a local convenience store. We could be lowering our crime rate and decreasing the cost of our War on Crime as well.
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Old 07-18-2010, 02:01 PM
 
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Many drugs are already legal. Consider that alcohol causes more deaths every year than did the terrorists in the worst "attack" on American soil in modern times?

Why do you believe that we would be any worse with legal Commerce than with our current War on Drugs? Can you cite any evidence that supports your contention in any other sector? Consider that if we are not wasting money on a Drug War, that money could be used to pay for actually eliminating poverty. If there is no poverty in our republic, why would there be any people willing to commit crimes for drugs, since they would have money to buy drugs at a local convenience store. We could be lowering our crime rate and decreasing the cost of our War on Crime as well.
Legalizing Drugs Makes Matters Worse
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Old 07-19-2010, 05:26 PM
 
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what i want to know is where were ALL THESE " DEFICIT HAWK" Republican Senators when they Repeatedly Voted for Billions of TaxPayers money to build Iraq ????

Not a Single Republican Senator Ever Questioned the $1.5 Trillion Deficit caused by the Bush Wars.

Then when Obama came to office, they became " Overnight Instant Deficit Hawks".

Did the taxpayers get our money back from Iraq????

They are concerned about paying americans who were laid off from work, yet, they were Never concerned about spending $ 1.5 trillion and counting in the Bush family war.

Then you have these high school grad followers jumping up and down to cheer them. lol
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Old 07-19-2010, 11:40 PM
 
Location: US, California - federalist
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Prohibition made societal problems much worse than that powerful, mood altering Drug known as Alcohol did when legal, and caused a repeal of the only delegated power to Prohibit forms of Commerce among the several States due to corruption it engendered.

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Many social problems have been attributed to the Prohibition era. Mafia groups limited their activities to gambling and theft until 1920, when organized bootlegging manifested in response to the effect of Prohibition.[19] A profitable, often violent, black market for alcohol flourished. Powerful gangs corrupted law enforcement agencies, leading to racketeering. Stronger liquor surged in popularity because its potency made it more profitable to smuggle.

To prevent bootleggers from using industrial ethyl alcohol to produce illegal beverages, the government ordered the poisoning of industrial alcohols. In response, bootleggers hired chemists who successfully renatured the alcohol to make it drinkable. As a response, the Treasury Department required manufacturers to add more deadly poisons, including the particularly deadly methyl alcohol. New York City medical examiners prominently opposed these policies because of the danger to human life. As many as 10,000 people died from drinking denatured alcohol before Prohibition ended.[20]

Making alcohol at home was very common during Prohibition. Stores sold grape concentrate with warning labels that listed the steps that should be avoided to prevent the juice from fermenting into wine. Home-distilled hard liquor was referred to as “bathtub gin” in northern cities, and moonshine in the rural areas of North Carolina, South Carolina, Georgia and Tennessee. These individuals transported the alcohol to eager customers in other towns and cities. Since selling privately distilled alcohol was illegal and bypassed taxation by the government, the law relentlessly pursued these individuals.[21] In response, the bootleggers in southern states started creating their own souped-up, stock-looking cars by enhancing their cars’ engines and suspensions to have a faster vehicle. Having a faster vehicle during Prohibition, they presumed, would improve their chances of outrunning and escaping agents of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms (BATF), commonly called "revenue agents' or "revenooers". These cars became known as “moonshine runners” or "'shine runners".[22]

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When repeal of Prohibition occurred in 1933, organized crime lost nearly all of its black market alcohol profits in most states (states still had the right to enforce their own laws concerning alcohol consumption) because of competition with low-priced alcohol sales at legal liquor stores.

Source: Prohibition in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
In addition, our discretionary spending on a federal War on Drugs, outside of DC and other federal property, denies and disparages States' rights; one of the checks and balances of power designed into our form of federal Statism.

Those funds that are currently being spent to deny and disparage individual liberty could be better spent on social spending that actually provides for the general welfare of the United States.

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A power to destroy the freedom of the press, the trial by jury, or even to regulate the course of descents, or the forms of conveyances, must be very singularly expressed by the terms "to raise money for the general welfare."

The Federalist Number 41
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Old 07-19-2010, 11:46 PM
 
Location: US, California - federalist
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what i want to know is where were ALL THESE " DEFICIT HAWK" Republican Senators when they Repeatedly Voted for Billions of TaxPayers money to build Iraq ????

Not a Single Republican Senator Ever Questioned the $1.5 Trillion Deficit caused by the Bush Wars.

Then when Obama came to office, they became " Overnight Instant Deficit Hawks".

Did the taxpayers get our money back from Iraq????

They are concerned about paying americans who were laid off from work, yet, they were Never concerned about spending $ 1.5 trillion and counting in the Bush family war.

Then you have these high school grad followers jumping up and down to cheer them. lol
Our foreign entanglements involve more than mere lucre due to our credibility in foreign affairs being at stake.

Our War on Drugs can be easily solved by being Moral enough to bear true witness to our own Constitution through the delegated power to Regulate commerce among the several States. The power to Prohibit commerce among the several States was repealed with the Twenty-First Amendment to our supreme Law of the Land.
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