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Old 07-17-2010, 07:55 PM
 
Location: Live in NY State, work in CT
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Now cmon, I've been to enough job fairs to know that a LOT more than 3 people show up (and sadly, most don't have 500 jobs available either).
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Old 07-17-2010, 08:01 PM
 
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Ha, Job fairs here get so many people that you cant even get in. Problem is they are mostly for advertising themselves rather then giving out jobs that don't exist.
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Old 07-17-2010, 09:56 PM
 
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Ha, Job fairs here get so many people that you cant even get in. Problem is they are mostly for advertising themselves rather then giving out jobs that don't exist.
I hear ya. I am amazed how they still get thousands of duped people to show up here whenever there's a so-called job fair. Just shows the desperation of the situation.
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Old 07-17-2010, 10:15 PM
 
Location: Live in NY State, work in CT
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Even in good times job fairs are pretty bogus, the (sometimes) exceptions (only in good times) being ones geared towards IT and Education.
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Old 07-17-2010, 11:43 PM
 
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This is a fact of human nature. Free money such as extended UI is going to inhibit job hunting for some people.

What we don't know is how many people. Certainly not all people. It could only 5% of people get lazy. It would be 80% of people get lazy. We don't know how many, but atleast some people do stop searching.

The issue here is that the "some people" who get lazy, make the rest of the crowd look bad. And without knowing how many, it destroys the integrity of the claim. Fine, if it's 80% of people, we have a problem. If it's 5%, let them slide and let the other 95% live day to day so they can stay on their feet looking for work.
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Old 07-18-2010, 07:00 AM
 
Location: Live in NY State, work in CT
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If a significant amount of people, many of whom have been working hard for decades, are going to be homeless and with no hope, does it really matter NJBest? That's what's most important. I don't know the percent that simply live off it and don't job hunt at all, but I doubt it's a majority.
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Old 07-18-2010, 11:16 AM
 
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Whomever those people may be, they're only hurting themselves by not looking for work. It takes at least a year for people who are actively searching to find a job, if those people wait and wait and don't search, they'll lose their benefits and won't have any income at all. Stuck like chuck. They will only have themselves to blame.
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Old 07-18-2010, 11:42 AM
 
Location: US, California - federalist
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The recurring theme that unemployment compensation needs to be "paid" for is somewhat disingenuous. The funds can always come from our extra-Constitutional (since the repeal of the Prohibition Amendment) War on Drugs.

Why are the republicans so fiscally irresponsible concerning the general welfare of the Union? The Drug War is a Cost center; while the Fed is a Revenue center.

We are losing revenue by Prohibiting Commerce among the several States in regard to drugs. That money could be used to pay for unemployment compensation that bears true witness to at-will employment laws, a federal doctrine, and our Ninth Amendment.
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Old 07-18-2010, 11:48 AM
 
Location: US, California - federalist
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The recurring theme that unemployment compensation needs to be "paid" for is somewhat disingenuous. The funds can always come from our extra-Constitutional (since the repeal of the Prohibition Amendment) War on Drugs.

Why are the republicans so fiscally irresponsible concerning the general welfare of the Union? The Drug War is a Cost center; while the Fed is a Revenue center.

We are losing revenue by Prohibiting Commerce among the several States in regard to drugs. That money could be used to pay for unemployment compensation that bears true witness to at-will employment laws, a federal doctrine, and our Ninth Amendment. It could be considered a moral and ethical issue, even if our elected representatives to government are not required to pass any religious morals test for public office. We have a McCarthy era phrase in our pledge of allegiance that implies in fact, a moral of true witness bearing concerning religion.

In other words, if the money needs to come from somewhere, it should come from our wasteful War on Drugs.
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Old 07-18-2010, 12:02 PM
 
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The recurring theme that unemployment compensation needs to be "paid" for is somewhat disingenuous. The funds can always come from our extra-Constitutional (since the repeal of the Prohibition Amendment) War on Drugs.

Why are the republicans so fiscally irresponsible concerning the general welfare of the Union? The Drug War is a Cost center; while the Fed is a Revenue center.

We are losing revenue by Prohibiting Commerce among the several States in regard to drugs. That money could be used to pay for unemployment compensation that bears true witness to at-will employment laws, a federal doctrine, and our Ninth Amendment. It could be considered a moral and ethical issue, even if our elected representatives to government are not required to pass any religious morals test for public office. We have a McCarthy era phrase in our pledge of allegiance that implies in fact, a moral of true witness bearing concerning religion.

In other words, if the money needs to come from somewhere, it should come from our wasteful War on Drugs.
Sure, let's legalize drugs...then watch the cost of health care sky-rocket even higher due to heart disease, respiratory illness, and mental disorders stemming from drug use. Then of course we'll have to deal with the increase in crime due to people stoned out of their gourd acting like idiots coupled with the crack-heads committing heinous acts like murder, burglary, and rape. No thanks.
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