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Old 07-20-2010, 01:58 PM
 
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Thanks for the backhand!
Given how many of you on the right look down on the unemployed and assume they're all a bunch of lazy people who aren't looking for work, I think what I said was only fair. You persisted until you found a job. Why is it so hard for the right-wingers to believe others aren't like you as well?
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Old 07-20-2010, 02:10 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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Why is it so hard for the right-wingers to believe others aren't like you as well?
Because those who do this sort of thing suffer from myopia of the brain.

It's also linked to the "if I can do it, anyone can do it!" attitude. Once again, a very myopic belief system. Nothing else matters to such an individual if he/she has never experienced it.

It's similar to a baby's view of the world. When a parent leaves the baby alone in the room, that person no longer exists in the baby's mind. Similarly, if the OP has not experienced it, it must not exist.
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Old 07-20-2010, 03:27 PM
 
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Because those who do this sort of thing suffer from myopia of the brain.

It's also linked to the "if I can do it, anyone can do it!" attitude. Once again, a very myopic belief system. Nothing else matters to such an individual if he/she has never experienced it.

It's similar to a baby's view of the world. When a parent leaves the baby alone in the room, that person no longer exists in the baby's mind. Similarly, if the OP has not experienced it, it must not exist.
It's just strange to hear the contradiction. "I was out of work, busted my behind to find a job, and finally got one. But I'm the exception. Everyone else is just a lazy bum looking for handouts." I've seen this attitude in other areas as well. For example, if you talk about losing weight, you'll always find the person who says how hard they worked to lose weight. But they're quick to point out how everyone else is too lazy to exercise. It shows how arrogant these people are, to think they're the only ones who work hard. Anytime I succeeded at something that others wanted to achieve as well, I didn't assume that I was different than them. For all I know, they were working just as hard at achieving that goal. But it seems like this forum is full of people who think they're the only ones who work hard.
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Old 07-20-2010, 04:09 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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It's just strange to hear the contradiction. "I was out of work, busted my behind to find a job, and finally got one. But I'm the exception. Everyone else is just a lazy bum looking for handouts." I've seen this attitude in other areas as well. For example, if you talk about losing weight, you'll always find the person who says how hard they worked to lose weight. But they're quick to point out how everyone else is too lazy to exercise. It shows how arrogant these people are, to think they're the only ones who work hard. Anytime I succeeded at something that others wanted to achieve as well, I didn't assume that I was different than them. For all I know, they were working just as hard at achieving that goal. But it seems like this forum is full of people who think they're the only ones who work hard.
I bet I can shed some light on this. Not too long ago, the OP was discussing how in high school, he graduated with a sub-3.0 GPA. He explained how some of his teachers told his parents that they thought he was mentally challenged, or something else along those lines. He went on to explain how he got into some state college in upstate NY, how he graduated with a B grade point. He was very proud of this, as he should be.

My point is, when average or below-average people overcome what they consider major obstacles in their life, they take a great amount of pride in the efforts it took to overcome them. For most above-average people, on the other hand, academia, work, etc. just comes naturally to them. So when they accomplish something big, it's just pfft...whatev. Next?

So when people go on these types of rants about how "you just need to work hard", it's likely because they've had to work harder than someone who's above average in order to accomplish things in their life. So I definitely give the OP some credit for busting his ***** for this new job and getting through college. On the other hand, I wouldn't take his rants to heart, because honestly, consider the source.
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Old 07-20-2010, 04:15 PM
 
Location: Buffalo, trying to leave
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It's just strange to hear the contradiction. "I was out of work, busted my behind to find a job, and finally got one. But I'm the exception. Everyone else is just a lazy bum looking for handouts." I've seen this attitude in other areas as well.
Wow talk about a stretch. You have no clue what you're talking about, as I'm not even out of work

But I do think that if everyone worked as hard as me at finding a job, they would sooner. For instance, I spent my 2 week vacation traveling from Buffalo to Huntsville and stopped at 6 job fairs.

I don't understand you. You turn everything into politics, it's seriously annoying, there is a forum for that, no one cares about your illegal immigration views, I only post in your stupid threads for balance and to point out the massive fallacies that you present incessantly.

I sincerely hope that you aren't political in real life, I knew someone who turned every conversation into a rant about why Jimmy Carter ruined everything. No one could talk to her, and you remind me of her. Just give it a rest, and you might be well advised to take up another hobby besides picking arguments on a message board, because at the end of the day, no one cares about your opinions - and I'm mad at myself for not having the maturity to not get sucked into your stupid game.
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Old 07-20-2010, 04:22 PM
 
Location: Buffalo, trying to leave
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I bet I can shed some light on this. Not too long ago, the OP was discussing how in high school, he graduated with a sub-3.0 GPA. He explained how some of his teachers told his parents that they thought he was mentally challenged, or something else along those lines. He went on to explain how he got into some state college in upstate NY, how he graduated with a B grade point. He was very proud of this, as he should be.

My point is, when average or below-average people overcome what they consider major obstacles in their life, they take a great amount of pride in the efforts it took to overcome them. For most above-average people, on the other hand, academia, work, etc. just comes naturally to them. So when they accomplish something big, it's just pfft...whatev. Next?

So when people go on these types of rants about how "you just need to work hard", it's likely because they've had to work harder than someone who's above average in order to accomplish things in their life. So I definitely give the OP some credit for busting his ***** for this new job and getting through college. On the other hand, I wouldn't take his rants to heart, because honestly, consider the source.
Let me correct you, because you have made many factual errors, of course. But I'll be glad to help.

I went through most of high school with a C average, but graduated with about a B+ average. My GPA in college was 3.5, which is not a B, but right in the middle of B+ and A- (actually considered A- at my school). And this wasn't "some state school" it is the most selective public school in New York.

I believe that I explained very clearly that I am not average, as a matter of fact, I remember mentioning my parents forcing me to get an IQ test which proved that I am smarter than 92% of people, I was just the laziest person then, now I am not.

But thank you for taking such an interest in the biographical details of my life, I would be more than glad to tell you more if it would please you.

Again, thanks for the backhanded insults, and the way to make me stop putting you down for screwing your career up isn't to insult me, FYI.
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Old 07-20-2010, 04:36 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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Let me correct you, because you have made many factual errors, of course. But I'll be glad to help.

I went through most of high school with a C average, but graduated with about a B+ average. My GPA in college was 3.5, which is not a B, but right in the middle of B+ and A- (actually considered A- at my school). And this wasn't "some state school" it is the most selective public school in New York.

I believe that I explained very clearly that I am not average, as a matter of fact, I remember mentioning my parents forcing me to get an IQ test which proved that I am smarter than 92% of people, I was just the laziest person then, now I am not.

But thank you for taking such an interest in the biographical details of my life, I would be more than glad to tell you more if it would please you.

Again, thanks for the backhanded insults, and the way to make me stop putting you down for screwing your career up isn't to insult me, FYI.
Oops, did I forget to say congratulations in my last post. Looks like I did. Congratulations!
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Old 07-20-2010, 04:43 PM
 
Location: Buffalo, trying to leave
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Oops, did I forget to say congratulations in my last post. Looks like I did. Congratulations!
I don't think you forgot.
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Old 07-20-2010, 05:07 PM
 
Location: Northern NH
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Have a Cosmo! What state will you be in BTW? I would suggest that you celebrate this really amazing job offer
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Old 07-20-2010, 05:34 PM
 
Location: Buffalo, trying to leave
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Have a Cosmo! What state will you be in BTW? I would suggest that you celebrate this really amazing job offer
Thanks, it's in Buffalo! Reps to you for not insulting me
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