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Old 08-05-2010, 08:34 PM
 
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...with no or few connections.

Do you agree or disagree with this statement?
Like anything it depends on many factors.

I have two friends who recently left my company to go on to some pretty significant new jobs in a similar industry (although not the same).

One got the job through just applying via the company's website (she actually found the posting on Monster.com and the posting linked to the employer's website). She did not know anyone who worked there; the folks who hired her had no connections to her or anyone at our company either.

However, once she had an offer about to be presented she mentioned to HR that she had a coworker who was also interested in one of the jobs that was opened (Project Management/ Systems Analyst roles). HR immediately contacted the candidate (he had already applied a few weeks earlier but had never been called) and set up interviews with the hiring managers. I can definitely say that these actions were really because of the girl who was about to have the offer made. In the end, the company decided to pass on her coworker, but he had a series of 3 interviews so he was one of the finalists.

Now, he ended up getting another job that he was qualified for, but he also had a huge network at this other location. Several of his colleagues had gone over to work for this same company in the past couple of years and even though none of them were the hiring managers, they were able to connect with HR and the hiring managers to put in a good word.

I am currently interviewing for a position and I have worked with the some of the hiring panel in the past. I am sure that this has helped me be able to get as far in the hiring process as I have reached so far (and I am also an out of state candidate). However, I also have the exact skillset they are looking for- but I won't deny that it is not immensely helpful that I have a reputation with these hiring decision makers.
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Old 08-05-2010, 10:06 PM
 
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Knowing someone should do nothing more than get a foot in the door, and there's nothing wrong with that. But, once the foot is in the door, if you can't close the deal with your experience and abilities then the door should be closed. Expecting that the "in" is going to give you the inside shot if you're not qualified is a dealbreaker with me.
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Old 08-07-2010, 10:05 AM
 
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I agree. I know TONS of people that have jobs just because of who they know or what school they attended. Is reality..
Yes. They'll even brag about it - they will often remind you that it's "not what you know but who you know" and rub it in that they are special and aren't expected to do much work.

You see these people in many places, they know they don't have to get their hands dirty with any real work, they "schmooze" and name drop and make it clear they are special people. What's more - it works for them.
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Old 08-07-2010, 10:10 AM
 
Location: SW Missouri
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...with no or few connections.

Do you agree or disagree with this statement?
I can only speak for my personal experience. Where I live, here in the Missouri Ozarks, it is all about who you know. There is no need for anyone to have any skills whatsoever if they are friends with the right people. There are very well qualified individuals (me for one, LOL), out there who are capable, intelligent, educated *and* willing to give body, heart and soul to their job. However, they will go wanting because they do no know the right people.

Such is life. You have to be willing to play the game or suffer the consequences. Again, I don't know if it is like this everywhere, certainly not as bad in the big city, but it is sure like that here.

20yrsinBranson
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Old 08-07-2010, 10:20 AM
 
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I don't think the two can entirely be separated. Connections are short-lived unless you've got some substance to back up your charm. And well-qualified people tend to naturally build a network because people want to work with them or for them.
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