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Old 08-22-2010, 10:51 AM
 
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If you get a false positive, you will also fail as it is going to be assumed that you took the drug and you have no way of proving that you didn't. Allergy medication can cause a false positive for amphetamines, and Ibuprofen and a B2 supplement can cause a false positive for marijuana, although it really depends on the type of test since most tests can now screen out ibuprofen. I would imagine by now, allergy medications and cough syrups, too, but the point still remains that if you do get a false positive for any reason, you are considered guilty.

And don't think that you can use some product or other remedy to conceal what ever drug you took. You will either get a false positive or they can detect the other substance if they look for it. They are not stupid, you know, but how in depth they go really depends on how much money the employer (or you) is willing (required) to spend.
NO, how in-depth they go depends on the laws they are required to follow and how much liability they want to expose themselves to by providing misleading reports to a client (the employer).

The lab that collects the specimen is required to note any and all legal drugs they are taking. If they don't ask the employee or record the answers, the entire test is invalid. They are also required to freeze half the sample so that it can be sent to another lab for retesting, should any party request it. They are also required to answer questions should the employer have them, about the results or their meanings or possible false positives.

Things like supplements and common medications are easily distinguished by special tests run to isolate them from other substances. They run tests to rule out diluted samples, overconcentrated samples, non-biological substances, and many many other things. There are thresholds of usage that are not reported.

The final results are reviewed by professionals known as Certifying Scientists, and are revewed by multiple individuals before the results are finalized and reported to the employer. The report comes with extensive warnings about the consequences of misinterpreting the results. Most employers who use drug tests undergo extensive training as well, to minimize their own liability.
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Old 08-22-2010, 01:04 PM
 
Location: Spokane via Sydney,Australia
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But you're right in the end, it wasn't worth making a big deal over and then have the agency not call me for future assignments.
Which is exactly why they get away with it.
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Old 06-28-2014, 09:37 AM
 
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After I started working, I was required to take a random drug test. No problem but the company then charged me for the test. Is this legal?
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Old 06-28-2014, 10:49 AM
 
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I don't know why people would go take a drug test anyway if they know they're going to fail
Because it's possible to fail a drug test even when you don't take drugs. It's called a false positive.
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Old 06-28-2014, 11:04 AM
 
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After I started working, I was required to take a random drug test. No problem but the company then charged me for the test. Is this legal?
That doesn't sound legal unless you were informed ahead of time.
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Old 06-28-2014, 11:29 AM
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I've never had to pay for my own, but I wouldn't see that as being illegal. They are giving you an opportunity, either you go for it or you don't.
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Old 06-28-2014, 12:46 PM
 
Location: Chicago area
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I don't think it is illegal but it is certainly classless and I'd pass on the employer. Though why would it take 2 hours. Each time I had one it was drive to the local Quest, fill the cup, and leave 30 minutes at most.
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Old 06-28-2014, 04:55 PM
 
Location: The City That Never Sleeps
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First: I have never had to pay for it.
Second: If they wanted me to pay for it, they usually told me that BEFORE they sent me.
Third: I would never take the test unless I knew upfront who paid for it. I would never agree to just go and worry about the payment later.

Last: It's YOUR responsibility to find out before going, "WHO PAYS FOR THIS"? You wouldn't start a job without knowing the salary upfront right?
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Old 06-28-2014, 11:38 PM
 
Location: North Texas
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I would refuse to pay for a drug test or background check.

If my word that I'm not a druggie or a felon isn't good enough for you, then YOU pay to confirm that I'm not. I'll **** in your stupid cup and give you my SSN, but don't dare bill me for it. If you expect me to pay for it, find some other sucker.

FWIW, I have never been asked to pay for a drug test or background check.
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Old 11-09-2014, 05:24 AM
 
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I have been working for almost 2 years as a caregiver for Home Instead Senior Care in White Plains, New York. I passed the drugtest when I first started and passed. My employer took the $ 50.- for the test from my first 2 paychecks.

I recently was selected, randomly, to have another test done. I have been extremely reliable, never called in sick so I think this is ridiculous. I don't mind having the test done but as a matter of principle I think Home Instead should pay for the test + an hour of work for the time it takes me to have the test done.

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