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Old 09-11-2010, 12:17 PM
 
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If it indeed is a policy, then it should be written down as such, at HR or employee handbook or whatever.
I am also an "employee at whim" but there are still HR policies and rules. The managers often pull some "rule" out of their butts, and when you expect them to play ball and show the written policy or talk to your lawyer, they roll over and play dead (one reason I have such disrespect for the immediate management at my institution).
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Old 09-11-2010, 01:05 PM
 
Location: The Chatterdome in La La Land, CaliFUNia
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I am working at multiple part-time jobs within my chosen field and not only are my supervisors aware of my job search activities, they are more than willing to provide me with references. Due to the unstable nature of my hours, they KNOW that a full-time job with benefits would be in my best interests. I could possibly understand your boss's demands IF this were a full-time position with benefits but this is PART-TIME employment! OF COURSE you are going to aim for full-time work with benefits as you worked your buns off in college for that purpose. Yes, the boss can do whatever she wants and make all sorts of demands but this is ridiculous! If she does not want her employees to search for other employment then offer them FULL-TIME work with BENEFITS!
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Old 09-11-2010, 02:43 PM
 
Location: Buffalo, trying to leave
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Well that's it. It's an unreasonable policy. If I follow it, the only way I can leave is if I get fired, which makes no sense.

Of course I could quit without a job lined up...

BTW: Go Buckeyes!
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Old 09-11-2010, 04:07 PM
 
Location: Live in NY State, work in CT
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My concern is being fired period, I don't want that on my record.
I guess you'll just have to quit then (and have THAT on your record) and put to the test your claims that anyone should be able to get another job in 3-6 months......
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Old 09-11-2010, 06:25 PM
 
Location: Buffalo, trying to leave
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I guess you'll just have to quit then (and have THAT on your record) and put to the test your claims that anyone should be able to get another job in 3-6 months......
Or I could just apply elsewhere... I have another 2 interviews in the coming weeks, I haven't had any in nearly 3 weeks, so I'm hopeful...

And my claim was 8 months is the most it should be theoretically, and 16 months if you are incompetent.
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Old 09-11-2010, 06:41 PM
 
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I thought you got a "dream job" a few months ago, what happened to that
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Old 09-11-2010, 06:58 PM
 
Location: Buffalo, trying to leave
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I thought you got a "dream job" a few months ago, what happened to that
Just look at my past posts, I've explained it about 10 times. Short answer: The offer was pulled because the department with this company had financial issues and eliminated the job.
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Old 09-11-2010, 07:04 PM
 
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Well that's it. It's an unreasonable policy. If I follow it, the only way I can leave is if I get fired, which makes no sense.

Of course I could quit without a job lined up...

BTW: Go Buckeyes!
Of course getting fired isn't the only way.

You could resign. Or you could transfer or get promoted to another position where you work under another manager who doesn't have the same rule. Or you could stick around long enough in this job that your boss doesn't feel used or abused or forgets about the rule she made.

There's no law that says rules are only rules if an employer writes it down in a handbook. Your employer knows this, and so do potential employers. It would be unwise to break a rule just because you think it's not a 'real rule'.
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Old 09-11-2010, 07:11 PM
 
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Just look at my past posts, I've explained it about 10 times. Short answer: The offer was pulled because the department with this company had financial issues and eliminated the job.
Ahh OK

well anyway back to the thread, if this happened to me I'd contact our union attorney who would tell me if this was legal. If not legal, we'd file a grievance.
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Old 09-11-2010, 07:35 PM
 
Location: Buffalo, trying to leave
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There's no law that says rules are only rules if an employer writes it down in a handbook. Your employer knows this, and so do potential employers. It would be unwise to break a rule just because you think it's not a 'real rule'.
It's not a real rule. I have a contract. Let me put this in simpler terms.

Pretend you're buying a car, you sign a contract with the price, warranty, monthly payment, etc. Right as you are about to drive away, the sales manager runs out and says, "oh by the way, if you don't park in a garage, your warranty will be voided." You have 3 options now, one is going back and asking them to cancel your contract, the other is ignoring it, the third is building a garage and parking in it.

Most likely you'll say, "whatever," with the knowledge that you have a contract, and this guy is a knucklehead.

I'm not sure what kind of company you work for, but you can generally not make such large amendments to an employment contract without permission.

At any rate, how unreasonable is it (therefore unlikely)? I work for a large company, and can guarantee that we aren't a third rate shop who abuses their employees.

It was a bad management decision/statement. It ends there. But you being the HR "professional" are convinced that you can modify contracts without consent...
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