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Old 12-14-2011, 03:26 PM
 
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An Employment Contract specifically states its a contract. Sure it may contain and have many things in a job offer but unless it specifically states its a contract, a job offer is just a offer.

I'm under an employment contract and it specifically states at the begining that this is a Contract for Employment. Everywhere it references contract. One important part of an employment contract is the specific regarding termination of the contract. Mine's specifaclly states that I am not an At-Will employee and that termination must be in accordance with the terms of the Contract. On the surface it resemmbeld a lot of the initial job offer letter, but the contract reads more like an employee manual and policies & procedures and not some basic info offer letter. It's some 20 pages long. (STT, you may understand it this way, the offer letter is more like a rental acceptance letter, but a employment contract is like a fully executed lease)

Also the Contract goes into details about the law under which the contract is goveren, which state, provisions for mediation/arbitration etc. My requirments if seeking to terminate the contract. The penalties for them violating it as well as penalties if I violate it. And that it can not be terminated unless we both agree to it unless its being terminated for some breech of the contract as outlined in the contract.
Yea I dont know too many employers that would sign something like that for an employee unless you brought the arch of the covenent to the table. The best thing most people will get is an at-will offer letter. Thats why its so critical to have a social safety net becuase SO many are at-will.
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Old 12-14-2011, 09:37 PM
 
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It happened to me years ago. It devastated me. I ended up having to relocate to another state to find work (early 90s recession).

I learned the hard way to not give notice until I have something in writing, that spells out the start date, the rate of pay, bonuses, etc. While a letter like that won't force a company to hire you, it does two things, 1) makes it less likely that an offer will be rescinded because the boss's nephew needs a job and 2) makes it possible to collect unemployment if you gave notice, but then the offer was rescinded.
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Old 12-15-2011, 12:28 PM
 
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Yea I dont know too many employers that would sign something like that for an employee unless you brought the arch of the covenent to the table.
They will because they wrote the Employment Contract.

Remember a employment contract is nothing but your job description, duties & responsibilities, pay info, benefits, policies and procedures and recourses written in contract form signed by both parties and binding on both.
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Old 08-01-2013, 04:00 PM
 
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Hmm... as supposedly "unethical" as it is to NOT give two weeks notice...I'm not sure I would do it if I left my current job. I left one job in 1993 and gave them a month's notice. My new employer, supposedly a great company, immediately began downsizing- I was laid off with no notice or severance exactly two years after my hire. Like, I'm finishing up a report at 7 pm and the company HR guy's looking more and more impatient and finally comes over, asks me to come into his office. I get the talk, sorry to see you go, can't offer you any severance due to finances, etc. Great. So I left, and left everything as it was, including my computer. Didn't even turn it off. That same company hired me about 5 months later as a contract employee, and was "dismayed" when I accepted a full-time job elsewhere and gave them notice on Tuesday that Friday was my last day. They didn't treat me terribly while I was there, but I certainly felt I owed them no more than what I'd received. I've now been in this company for 18 years...they talk alot about what a "family" it is- and I guess that's true if you're one of the principals.
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Old 09-03-2013, 10:54 PM
 
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I received a job offer early August 2013, gave my current employer 2 weeks notice trained my replacement to do my job, well today I started orientation at my new employer and was told I worked there previously which was untrue, I applied in 2002 and did the first day of orientation and informed my manager I would not accept the offer as another job has come alone with a better offer, well today 11 years later im back and was escorted off the property the reason was "I was an unsatisfactory employee"? wtf how could this be all I did was sit and watched videos for 8 hours and 11 years later these folks concocted some BS story of how I worked there several months and was an awful employee it never happened! Never even worked on the floor with any patients ever!
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Old 09-04-2013, 06:38 AM
 
Location: St Thomas, US Virgin Islands
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I received a job offer early August 2013, gave my current employer 2 weeks notice trained my replacement to do my job, well today I started orientation at my new employer and was told I worked there previously which was untrue, I applied in 2002 and did the first day of orientation and informed my manager I would not accept the offer as another job has come alone with a better offer, well today 11 years later im back and was escorted off the property the reason was "I was an unsatisfactory employee"? wtf how could this be all I did was sit and watched videos for 8 hours and 11 years later these folks concocted some BS story of how I worked there several months and was an awful employee it never happened! Never even worked on the floor with any patients ever!
I'd suggest you contact a labor attorney and see what, if any, legal options you have. You may have none but it's worth looking into. Personally, it's incongruous to me that during the application and interview process your name didn't pop up in company records and equally incongruous that, after so many years, this prior incident would be held against you. Good luck - but I would hope that you'd be eligible to collect UC until you can find employment.
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Old 09-17-2013, 11:42 PM
 
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I'd suggest you contact a labor attorney and see what, if any, legal options you have. You may have none but it's worth looking into. Personally, it's incongruous to me that during the application and interview process your name didn't pop up in company records and equally incongruous that, after so many years, this prior incident would be held against you. Good luck - but I would hope that you'd be eligible to collect UC until you can find employment.
Your concern and support means plenty may God bless you! Thanks a million
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