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Aren't you a career counselor? Can't you answer your own questions?
If you took time to read my first post you would have seen that I was asking for advice for someone else not me. I don't need job searching or resume advice.
Do you all put volunteer and other unrelated jobs or activities on your resume to fill the gap? the last thing on my resume is my part time, not career related job, and 3 places I've volunteered. If anyone reads to the end of my resume, they'll see what I've been doing.
You have been warned that I have no interest in talking to you on this board so the next time I will report you for being rude and harassing me. Leave me alone please, not going to say it again
Go ahead. I am neither harassing you or being rude to you, simply commenting on an open forum and addressing both what you and others have opined.
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if u think volunteering or learning a new computer program makes you an "interesting person", you have been seriously misled. doing those things is just puritanical make-yourself-feel-better-you-are-doing-something.
Many would totally disagree with you. I've never either sought to learn something new or volunteered in the community to "make myself feel better". The absolute opposite, in fact. If my talents and time can benefit someone else's lot then the satisfaction of accomplishing that is priceless and has nothing whatsoever to do with any self-serving motivation.
TVSG, Its natural to ask what people have been doing during gaps, just as actively employed candidates are asked what they do in their jobs. Some may be turned off, some may not ask, but still may view the unemployed candidate less favorably, especially in fast-changing fields. A good rule of thumb, IMO, in 2012, is the unemployed candidate to be hired, must be head and shoulders above the rest in education, training, demonstrated work ethic, and productively using his/her time, as to not do so, could raise questions in most employers minds regarding work ethic.
TVSG, Its natural to ask what people have been doing during gaps, just as actively employed candidates are asked what they do in their jobs. Some may be turned off, some may not ask, but still may view the unemployed candidate less favorably, especially in fast-changing fields. A good rule of thumb, IMO, in 2012, is the unemployed candidate to be hired, must be head and shoulders above the rest in education, training, demonstrated work ethic, and productively using his/her time, as to not do so, could raise questions in most employers minds regarding work ethic.
I heard of "tell me a little about yourself" but definitely not "What were you doing during this time?"
I think I would just walk out and leave because i would feel the interview took a turn for the worst and they don't plan to hire me anyway so why continue to sit here?
Employers will usually infer open ended questions such as your employment at XYZ ended 1/2009, and at ABC you started at 8/2009. They generally do not ask what you did with the time that was productive, but to not realize you best provide a good answer is missing the real reasons employers often read off stuff on a resume. First, in the event candidate fudged stuff, most will trip up on the issue, and second by reading end and start dates that have gaps, it infers the candidate should provide the answer as to how the time was used well.
Very often, the subtle aspects of an interview spell the difference b/w who was hired, and who was not.
Employers will usually infer open ended questions such as your employment at XYZ ended 1/2009, and at ABC you started at 8/2009. They generally do not ask what you did with the time that was productive, but to not realize you best provide a good answer is missing the real reasons employers often read off stuff on a resume. First, in the event candidate fudged stuff, most will trip up on the issue, and second by reading end and start dates that have gaps, it infers the candidate should provide the answer as to how the time was used well.
Very often, the subtle aspects of an interview spell the difference b/w who was hired, and who was not.
how is that subtle? anyone with half a brain could tell that was a question about gaps. maybe the "tell me about yourself" or "tell me about what brought you here" type questions are more subtle ways to get at that info
Employers will usually infer open ended questions such as your employment at XYZ ended 1/2009, and at ABC you started at 8/2009. They generally do not ask what you did with the time that was productive, but to not realize you best provide a good answer is missing the real reasons employers often read off stuff on a resume. First, in the event candidate fudged stuff, most will trip up on the issue, and second by reading end and start dates that have gaps, it infers the candidate should provide the answer as to how the time was used well.
Very often, the subtle aspects of an interview spell the difference b/w who was hired, and who was not.
Asking what you did at Comapny ABC makes a lot more sense at a interview instead of what did you do during this time you were unemployed. The fact that asking about white space has nothing to do with the job should be clear to anyone they are not getting the job. And if I get that question tomorrow I will politely excuse myself and leave the interview-lol
I was being kind. Its not subtle, but if TVSG is only counting explicit questions about gaps, indicators like the above are eluding him. If the candidate misses what they are expected to do, they are toast. The manager won't tell them; most likely he'll continue the interview to a normal duration, but the odds are, the candidate cannot recover from their failure to recognize the type of response expected.
Asking what you did at Comapny ABC makes a lot more sense at a interview instead of what did you do during this time you were unemployed. The fact that asking about white space has nothing to do with the job should be clear to anyone they are not getting the job. And if I get that question tomorrow I will politely excuse myself and leave the interview-lol
It seems you've never been in the position of hiring and yet you choose to ignore and dismiss the insight of those who have been in such a position. What might seem patently clear to you as an unemployed job applicant may well be completely the opposite of what is fact. To even contemplate walking out of an interview if you're asked a question which you assume means you're not in the running seems like an action akin to shooting yourself in the foot. Good luck with that.
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