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Old 03-05-2012, 01:32 PM
 
Location: Petticoat Junction
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Oh here we go, offering no useful advice, just casting your judgment on people who use recreational drugs because the government says it's wrong. Yet I'm sure you're someone who has gotten drunk several times in your lifetime.

When you make the decision to use drugs recreationally, you are making the decision to pre-emptively cancel yourself out of that part of the job market (that tests). You have to decide what's more important.

That is/was your choice. Actions have consequences. That's not a morals judgement, its a statement of fact. I couldn't care less what drugs you ingest....but I'm not your potential employer, either.

In the future, decide which is more important to you and move on.
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Old 03-05-2012, 02:27 PM
 
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What about trying a hair detox shampoo?

I found one for 70 bucks online and it looks like there's some other sites that say it works well. Is it worth a shot?
OP, you don't make a lot of sense.

1) this new job sounds like it would be a long commute

2) you said your current work environment is fine

3) there is no way to pass a hair test

4) you have to take a vacation day

And maybe the $70 shampoo makes you go bald.

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Old 03-05-2012, 02:41 PM
 
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OP, you don't make a lot of sense.

1) this new job sounds like it would be a long commute

2) you said your current work envrionment is fine

3) there is no way to pass a hair test

4) you have to take a vacation day

And maybe the $70 shampoo makes you go bald.
Maybe he's high on something. :-)

Sorry, I can't resist.
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Old 03-05-2012, 03:03 PM
 
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OP, you don't make a lot of sense.

1) this new job sounds like it would be a long commute
Not really, just the site that the interview is at

2) you said your current work environment is fine
No room for growth beyond my current position, I am fine, doing well, making money, but thinking about my future and it doesn't always hurt to look for a job that pays more money

3) there is no way to pass a hair test
Actually the research I've done says this simply is not true

4) you have to take a vacation day
If it's for a job that looks promising, it doesn't matter losing the vacation day

And maybe the $70 shampoo makes you go bald.
You're right, maybe the shampoo is a sham. Talking to a friend of a friend now who has used it and successfully dodged the drug test in the past via hair. So we'll see what happens.

Ultimately, I think I just need to give up smoking. I'm not blaming anyone else for my decisions or actions, I know many of you would like to spin it that way, but I am responsible and I'm accepting my consequences. This situation has made me realize the one time a month I get high just isn't worth it. I still believe people should be able to do what they want with their bodies with the exception of certain jobs that require attentiveness and alertness. So those of you who were holding out for a "moral" realization that drugs are evil and no one should do them you can stop holding your breath.

This is for a sales job, sitting at a desk. I haven't used a sick day in 2 years, I have all my vacation days saved up from last year and can only save up another 5 days before I start to lose them. I've seen many of my colleagues come to work hung over and still drunk from the events the companies host and serve alcohol at but of course that's "acceptable" by the government and employers these days, but for a guy who responsibly smokes once a month at a concert or event to take a load of stress off is an outcast and should be terminated. Government even lets women kill the child in their bodies but she can't take drugs that leads to unhealthy side effects. Not claiming I'm pro-life/pro-choice in anyway, just saying it's pretty funny what's considered right and wrong in this country.

That's fine, it's not that important to me, I'll give it up. I guess I gotta wait like what, 90 days? 6 months? Everything I've read so far that most hair tests go back 90 days, few go back 6 months. Nothing has said it goes back longer than that. If someone knows of a resource that says so I'd be glad to see you cite it.

Thank you.
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Old 03-05-2012, 03:07 PM
 
Location: 112 Ocean Avenue
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Smoke crack instead.
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Old 03-05-2012, 03:32 PM
 
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You're right, maybe the shampoo is a sham. Talking to a friend of a friend now who has used it and successfully dodged the drug test in the past via hair. So we'll see what happens.

Ultimately, I think I just need to give up smoking. I'm not blaming anyone else for my decisions or actions, I know many of you would like to spin it that way, but I am responsible and I'm accepting my consequences. This situation has made me realize the one time a month I get high just isn't worth it. I still believe people should be able to do what they want with their bodies with the exception of certain jobs that require attentiveness and alertness. So those of you who were holding out for a "moral" realization that drugs are evil and no one should do them you can stop holding your breath.

This is for a sales job, sitting at a desk. I haven't used a sick day in 2 years, I have all my vacation days saved up from last year and can only save up another 5 days before I start to lose them. I've seen many of my colleagues come to work hung over and still drunk from the events the companies host and serve alcohol at but of course that's "acceptable" by the government and employers these days, but for a guy who responsibly smokes once a month at a concert or event to take a load of stress off is an outcast and should be terminated. Government even lets women kill the child in their bodies but she can't take drugs that leads to unhealthy side effects. Not claiming I'm pro-life/pro-choice in anyway, just saying it's pretty funny what's considered right and wrong in this country.

That's fine, it's not that important to me, I'll give it up. I guess I gotta wait like what, 90 days? 6 months? Everything I've read so far that most hair tests go back 90 days, few go back 6 months. Nothing has said it goes back longer than that. If someone knows of a resource that says so I'd be glad to see you cite it.

Thank you.
Totally agree with everything u said. I would rather have an employee who smokes than one who drinks. Thats said its not how it is. Personally im jot willing not to partake for a job so i staryed my own company best thing i ever did. Thank u stupid drug testing policies for forcing ke to look into other options
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Old 03-05-2012, 04:03 PM
 
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When you make the decision to use drugs recreationally, you are making the decision to pre-emptively cancel yourself out of that part of the job market (that tests). You have to decide what's more important.

That is/was your choice. Actions have consequences. That's not a morals judgement, its a statement of fact. I couldn't care less what drugs you ingest....but I'm not your potential employer, either.

In the future, decide which is more important to you and move on.

I agree. Don't smoke while looking for a job. If currently employed and not looking, feel free
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Old 03-05-2012, 04:10 PM
 
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Interesting demographic on this forum. I don't smoke because of medical/personal issues, but from my experience, a very high percentage of young professionals partake in the activity. Even when I was looking for roommates in Chicago, a huge majority of the ads said "we are 4/20 friendly" or "you must be 4/20 friendly." It just seems like a very popular pass time.
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Old 03-05-2012, 05:00 PM
 
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I'm thinking of cancelling the interview and not wasting my time. Is there a chance I pass? Is there a chance they see I didn't smoke that many times and overlook it and hire me anyway?
Go to the interview! They won't test you at the interview, only if they offer you the job. The hiring process may time a long time before they chose a candidate. It's 3 months from the last time you smoked if you're a heavy smoker. For light smokers, it could be out of your system in 4 weeks. When was the last time you smoked?

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Given that the test goes back 90 days, that means it is a hair test, not urine.
You have no way of knowing it's a hair test. Marijuana can show up in urine up to 90 days later for people who are heavy users.
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Old 03-05-2012, 05:02 PM
 
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Well I'll just cancel the interview then. I don't want to waste vacation time on something I have no chance at getting.

Is it acceptable to inform them of why I am cancelling the interview? Should I just email the guy and say "hey, thanks for your interest, but I don't think I would pass the drug test so I'm cancelling the meeting"...?
Just saw that you canceled. I think that was unnecessary. Anyways, it would be foolish to tell them the reason you canceled. That would ruin your chances for an opening in the future even if you could pass the drug test.
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