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Old 06-27-2012, 05:29 PM
 
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I am not suggesting lying, in fact, right now I am dealing with some employment issues and while reading through the various documents, employee handbook on benefits, etc, I have seen the statement that if it is discovered that an employee lied about anything during the application/hiring process it can make him/her ineligible for various benefits if that is discovered.

I do feel for the OP, though. Its a difficult situation to be in. And I do believe that if they were willing to offer you that, then it really shouldn't matter what you made before.
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Old 06-27-2012, 05:33 PM
 
Location: Philaburbia
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When I got my current job I was asked to show my pay stubs and tax returns but it was only to confirm my dates of employment.
And you gave it to them?

And how does a tax return show your dates of employment?

This bullcrap by employers has got to stop.
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Old 06-27-2012, 05:34 PM
 
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I am not suggesting lying, in fact, right now I am dealing with some employment issues and while reading through the various documents, employee handbook on benefits, etc, I have seen the statement that if it is discovered that an employee lied about anything during the application/hiring process it can make him/her ineligible for various benefits if that is discovered.

I do feel for the OP, though. Its a difficult situation to be in. And I do believe that if they were willing to offer you that, then it really shouldn't matter what you made before.
This is pretty common. When I worked in a large payroll company many if the terminations for our clients that were involuntary were due to unsatisfactory background checks. This reason could be used for people well past the new hire stage.
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Old 06-27-2012, 05:43 PM
 
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I am sorry, but this is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard. What employer with half a brain would fall for this?

Doing this would do nothing but scream that you are lying.

Not really, I am in IT field and I have had to sign one of these at almost every Techie company I have worked for in the past. If if that employer still came back still trying to pry info out of you . Just flip the script and say if I was your employee would you honestly want me to void/violate your non-disclosure clause if I worked for the company. I betcha they say no.

It is a perfect valid answer.
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Old 06-27-2012, 05:48 PM
 
Location: Coastal Georgia
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As I understand they can, when hired and signed contract, contact my old employer and ask for the information.. and then fire me.
I am pretty sure that your old employer cannot, and will not give out that kind of personal information.
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Old 06-27-2012, 06:01 PM
 
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If you wish to continue .. Google ---------------------> paycheck stub generator .
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Old 06-27-2012, 06:20 PM
 
Location: Albuquerque
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I don't think scanning it and forging the numbers will work- you would have to try to closely guess all of the various deductions, taxes, with holdings, etc ...
You are probably the one who repped me and wrote "stupid post."

You don't have to closely guess anything. FICA is 7.65%. The other withholdings can stay - as-is.
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Old 06-27-2012, 06:24 PM
 
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Corporate America...the place where honesty matters...
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Old 06-27-2012, 06:30 PM
 
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You are probably the one who repped me and wrote "stupid post."
Ummmmmmmmmm.......no.

Not quite my style.
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Old 06-27-2012, 06:46 PM
 
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Corporate America...the place where honesty matters...
No, not yet. We still need to pass legislation which makes it illegal for a hiring manager/HR rep or other company representative to lie to/mislead an employee/candidate, while preserving the right and privilege of an employee/candidate to lie to/mislead an employer at their discretion.
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