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Old 07-12-2012, 07:59 AM
 
Location: USA
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We seem to keep going around in circles on this. You say promoting someone does not in any way reduce unemployment. That is only true if that person still has to do their old job. From my experience this just doesn't happen very often. The person that gets promoted has a new job. Their old job has to be filled. Rinse and repeat until you get to a spot that has to be filled from the outside.

And your comment about money doesn't make sense. It costs a company time and money to go through the process. If they really wanted to be cheap they certainly wouldn't bother bringing in candidates for nothing.
In every instance I've discussed, the company hired *no one.* That means, no one was hired for the posted job, and no one was hired to "fill in" the theoretical job that was freed up by the internal candidate being promoted or moved around. All they did was either: change nothing, dump more work on the people already there, or just shuffle things around and keep the headcount the same.

As for why the company wastes time and money bringing people in, I have no idea, but they keep doing it; as I said, the one honest company flat-out admitted to me that they were posting fake jobs for 1.5 years before they interviewed me on-site and claimed "to really be hiring now." Of course, in the end, they hired nobody - nobody for the posted job, nobody for any other jobs.

I'm not saying it makes sense, but it certainly happens.
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Old 07-12-2012, 09:59 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles Area
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I don't know maybe they do it because they found a loophole to get a tax break or something for making it seem they are hiring.
or
Maybe it has been so long since they hired anyone that they just do it to brush up on the process.

Either way I find it ridiculous to play these games on people who are looking.

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Old 07-12-2012, 11:22 AM
 
Location: NJ
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In every instance I've discussed, the company hired *no one.* That means, no one was hired for the posted job, and no one was hired to "fill in" the theoretical job that was freed up by the internal candidate being promoted or moved around. All they did was either: change nothing, dump more work on the people already there, or just shuffle things around and keep the headcount the same.

As for why the company wastes time and money bringing people in, I have no idea, but they keep doing it; as I said, the one honest company flat-out admitted to me that they were posting fake jobs for 1.5 years before they interviewed me on-site and claimed "to really be hiring now." Of course, in the end, they hired nobody - nobody for the posted job, nobody for any other jobs.

I'm not saying it makes sense, but it certainly happens.
How do you know they didn't hire anyone in each case?
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Old 07-13-2012, 10:09 AM
 
Location: USA
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How do you know they didn't hire anyone in each case?
Because in some cases they flat-out told me, and in other cases, the exact same job still sits on the website months later, which means nobody was hired for the job.
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Old 07-13-2012, 04:43 PM
 
Location: USA
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Why do they bother to post the job online?
Why do they have to make it look like they scoped out the "external" market?
What law or rule is being broken if they don't?
They can hire their friends, so what is the big deal? Why try to make it look like they scoped all of the good talent out, but had to settle for their buddy or relative? It's so obvious.
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