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Old 07-22-2012, 04:14 PM
 
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I was told from my friend in California recently that you can always take a job at Walmart if it's really bad, is that the last frontier?
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Old 07-22-2012, 04:16 PM
 
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I was told from my friend in California recently that you can always take a job at Walmart if it's really bad, is that the last frontier?
I don't know what planet your friend lives on, but even places like Wal-Mart, McDonald's, Burger King, etc are being picky and not hiring all over.
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Old 07-22-2012, 04:20 PM
 
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I don't know what planet your friend lives on, but even places like Wal-Mart, McDonald's, Burger King, etc are being picky and not hiring all over.
He's probably not experienced being unemployed, typical for most people already having jobs who never faced the dark side of the moon.
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Old 07-22-2012, 04:24 PM
 
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He's probably not experienced being unemployed, typical for most people already having jobs who never faced the dark side of the moon.
Sounds like it. That's another typical response people give. "Well go apply at WalMart or McDonald's." I know that if you aren't a high school or current college student, then they look at you as too overqualified and won't even consider you unless you apply for a supervisory type of job.

So far in my young years, I've experienced unemployment, being employed, and trying to become self-employed. I prefer being self-employed, but it won't get me as far without a job so I can invest more in my skills.
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Old 07-22-2012, 04:28 PM
 
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Sounds like it. That's another typical response people give. "Well go apply at WalMart or McDonald's." I know that if you aren't a high school or current college student, then they look at you as too overqualified and won't even consider you unless you apply for a supervisory type of job.

So far in my young years, I've experienced unemployment, being employed, and trying to become self-employed. I prefer being self-employed, but it won't get me as far without a job so I can invest more in my skills.
Majority of store staff near me are in their 30s or 40s. Not many kids, as WM needs to staff during school hours, too.
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Old 07-22-2012, 04:33 PM
 
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Majority of store staff near me are in their 30s or 40s. Not many kids, as WM needs to staff during school hours, too.
Yeah, I think demographics play a good role in who you see getting hired in your area. Most of the people where I live are retired people looking for extra money, so these employers know they don't have to pay them but so much so they always get first when it comes to the hiring process here. Where I'm at, isn't for a younger person.
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Old 07-22-2012, 05:04 PM
 
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I am in a smallish town and these recruiters are very powerful and dominate the market. I have experienced this with HR people and hiring managers too.
Well, what if you got rid of your linkedin and facebook pages completely, then what?

Will you still NOT be qualified?

It's stupid. If I was you, I'd try the next town over and keep it moving.
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Old 07-22-2012, 05:33 PM
 
Location: The City That Never Sleeps
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Well, what if you got rid of your linkedin and facebook pages completely, then what?

Will you still NOT be qualified?

It's stupid. If I was you, I'd try the next town over and keep it moving.
Yea, seriously now.So if someone had plenty of "friends" on Facebook but was otherwise not qualified or less qualified, they would hire that person?

Just more stupid people brainwashed by Facebook. In the 40s the same type of people in Germany would have said, "Well, you don't know enough people in the Nazi party....I'm sorry, we can't hire you."
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Old 07-22-2012, 09:36 PM
 
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1. Most small businesses fail within the first year...therefore you still need something to fall back on.
2. How many unemployed people you know have a lot of money laying around to invest in their business? I would like to open up my own business and the startup costs aren't that huge, BUT I would be fooling myself into thinking there's not some sort of start up investment to get it started.
3. Not every person is destined to become a manager or an owner. Not everybody was made for it.
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A few more:

4) Many people, while skilled, do not have any skills that would translate into a small business. People aren't going to start a surgery facility in their basement or an aerospace company. The days when that type of stuff was possible haven't existed for many decades.

5) Many of the businesses people could start on their own will never generate enough income to pay their bills even if the business is successful. A person is not going to be able to pay their bills washing cars or walking dogs.
You're creating your own barriers as an excuse. Every business owner knows that there is a risk of failing. But at least they try. They don't just sit around and complain about employers. They make moves.

Howard Johnson had to borrow money to start his business. He built his business on a soda machine and icecream.

Also, if you're unemployed, you have the advantage of being financially supported be SEA until you get your business up and running on it's own (or it fails).

I do get it though. If you have a family of 5 to support that it's not the best time to take these kinds of risks. But, seriously, the 20/30-something single people? You've got to be kidding me if you're limiting your potential by this much.

Anyways, my point is... you have two choices.

1. Take up a job that someone else creates for you.
2. Create jobs for yourself and others while taking control of you destiny.

No matter which you choose, don't complain about it.
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Old 07-23-2012, 03:55 AM
 
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1. Every industry has barrier entries to get into it. This is Business 101. Whether it's money or something else...how any early 20 somethings you know have the funds to start a successful business?

2. Having a job while you start your business is something to fall back. If you quit your job today or concentrate 100% in creating your business and 50/50 chance it will fail...then you have NOTHING to fall back on AND you lose money doing so.

3. It's not complaining nor excuses...it's called reality. Not everybody was meant to run their own business. Not everybody has it in them. Just like not everybody is made to be a lawyer or a doctor. Everybody in life weren't meant for certain things. Just the way life goes.


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You're creating your own barriers as an excuse. Every business owner knows that there is a risk of failing. But at least they try. They don't just sit around and complain about employers. They make moves.

Howard Johnson had to borrow money to start his business. He built his business on a soda machine and icecream.

Also, if you're unemployed, you have the advantage of being financially supported be SEA until you get your business up and running on it's own (or it fails).

I do get it though. If you have a family of 5 to support that it's not the best time to take these kinds of risks. But, seriously, the 20/30-something single people? You've got to be kidding me if you're limiting your potential by this much.

Anyways, my point is... you have two choices.

1. Take up a job that someone else creates for you.
2. Create jobs for yourself and others while taking control of you destiny.

No matter which you choose, don't complain about it.
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