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Old 07-31-2012, 09:41 AM
 
Location: Virginia Beach, VA
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True - I've seen that before... who knows... maybe she wanted to me say, "Yes, I have a job, and yes I'm at work right now." But the second part has no bearing on unemployment benefits and is an easily dismissable lie since I was clearly being called on my home phone and one could ask my employer if I was at work at the time, and they would say no. Unless she *wanted* me to lie, so the state could catch me on it and then cut off my benefits and save some money...

I don't know, but I'm going to go with the simplier assumption - she was either a moron or a troll who was just enjoying the power she had.
Cant say the the simplier assumption isnt logical here. The officer I had my unemployment meeting with was cold, ignorant, and "holier than though". She reminded me of a DMV employee.
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Old 08-01-2012, 12:41 AM
 
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Is it an option? Yes.

Is it a viable option? Unless you have tons of capital on hand, or a safety net to fall in, no.
This is an incorrect assumption on your part. You don't need tons of capital. In many businesses you need minimal capital (service industry). For those that do need some capital, there's the JOBs Act.

What's the safety net for an unemployed person to fall in? There is none. So starting a business puts you in no worse position than being unemployed.
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Old 08-01-2012, 12:42 AM
 
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If someone was born last night they would think

1. All employed people are perfect
2. All employed people love all their coworkers
3. All employed people are normal
4. All employed people are have no criminal background



LOL
We both know that none of those are true about ALL employed people. But we do know that employed people are better at attaining and keeping jobs than unemployed people.
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Old 08-01-2012, 01:19 AM
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Location: Tall Building down by the river
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We both know that none of those are true about ALL employed people. But we do know that employed people are better at attaining and keeping jobs than unemployed people.
Most people have a "uncontrollable negative view of unemployed people" because in this society we are taught that when someone is not working it's something WRONG WITH THEM.


And a friend of mine who started a job in April was let go in June because of performance. So not all employed people do a good job in retaining employment
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Old 08-01-2012, 04:49 AM
 
Location: St Thomas, US Virgin Islands
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Most people have a "uncontrollable negative view of unemployed people" because in this society we are taught that when someone is not working it's something WRONG WITH THEM.


And a friend of mine who started a job in April was let go in June because of performance. So not all employed people do a good job in retaining employment
1. No they don't - that's a ridiculous generalization.

2. People who can't perform their assigned tasks are let go all the time. Are you intimating that this is something you just learned?
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Old 08-01-2012, 08:30 AM
 
Location: USA
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1. No they don't - that's a ridiculous generalization.

2. People who can't perform their assigned tasks are let go all the time. Are you intimating that this is something you just learned?
Point to consider: The fact that a disturbing number of companies have "no unemployed need apply" policies in place (or just toss all the resumes of the unemployed to the bottom of the pile) strongly indicates a hatred of the unemployed, one that is probably based around the rather popular opinion that "all unemployed people are lazy or unskilled."

From a business perspective, if given two candidates of approximately equal ability, the unemployed one is usually the better choice to hire. He can start work immediately and won't be as demanding about wages and benefits since anything is better than nothing. So, if refusing to hire the unemployed doesn't make sense from a business viewpoint, the only other option is some form of personal bias, as mentioned earlier.
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Old 08-01-2012, 02:33 PM
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Point to consider: The fact that a disturbing number of companies have "no unemployed need apply" policies in place (or just toss all the resumes of the unemployed to the bottom of the pile) strongly indicates a hatred of the unemployed, one that is probably based around the rather popular opinion that "all unemployed people are lazy or unskilled."

From a business perspective, if given two candidates of approximately equal ability, the unemployed one is usually the better choice to hire. He can start work immediately and won't be as demanding about wages and benefits since anything is better than nothing. So, if refusing to hire the unemployed doesn't make sense from a business viewpoint, the only other option is some form of personal bias, as mentioned earlier.
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BTW I noticed this in the past 3 days

"Only Internal Candidates are eligible for this Job"

"Please no drop offs, email or fax your resume"

Last edited by 7G9C4J2; 08-01-2012 at 08:30 PM.. Reason: removed unnecessary personal remark
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Old 08-01-2012, 03:28 PM
 
Location: St Thomas, US Virgin Islands
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Point to consider: The fact that a disturbing number of companies have "no unemployed need apply" policies in place (or just toss all the resumes of the unemployed to the bottom of the pile) strongly indicates a hatred of the unemployed, one that is probably based around the rather popular opinion that "all unemployed people are lazy or unskilled."

From a business perspective, if given two candidates of approximately equal ability, the unemployed one is usually the better choice to hire. He can start work immediately and won't be as demanding about wages and benefits since anything is better than nothing. So, if refusing to hire the unemployed doesn't make sense from a business viewpoint, the only other option is some form of personal bias, as mentioned earlier.
1. This is your opinion and not one which is generally shared, while "hatred" is an unfortunate choice of a word.

2. I strongly disagree. I have been for many years, and still am, part of a very active professional business community and don't know anyone who subscribes to this point of view. As an employer for many, many years until just recently when I closed my last business, it never once even remotely occurred to me to choose an unemployed applicant over an employed applicant because of the reasons you throw out. My hirings were based on who could best fill the position, who was best qualified. I can't imagine any business doing otherwise. In my opinion that's simply ludicrous.
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Old 08-06-2012, 04:08 PM
 
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The difference is if you are getting lots of interviews but no offers then that means you will always have a resume to generate interview offers but just have to think about how you can do better at the interview

If you have been applying to jobs and never ever get any calls back then that means something on your resume is turning off employers and you have to figure out why.


So I think it's better to be in a position where you get lost of interviews but no offer because that means it's ONLY A MATTER OF TIME before you are hired
i wish hiring-managers would give constructive criticism to those who got rejected for the job, so the rejected people can learn from their mistakes
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Old 08-06-2012, 04:17 PM
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i wish hiring-managers would give constructive criticism to those who got rejected for the job, so the rejected people can learn from their mistakes
Sometimes it may have nothing to do with something a person did wrong if they reached the final round. The other candidate could just give off a more likable vibe who made the interviewer laugh more.
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