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Old 08-30-2012, 06:34 PM
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Who told you that? The advisors, the professors, and the university? They have a business to protect.

I remember when I first started a 4 year university as an older adult. I was reading the flyers for all of the majors, and all of the jobs graduates can supposedly get. I felt for the impressionable youth with no life experience being preyed on by another facet of the corporate machine. Sure, major in Ancient Dung Studies and you can be making 6 figures. Students need to do their own research about majors.

Luckily, there are some jobs for people who studied geography. How many job postings do you see specifically requiring a degree in Ancient Dung Studies, or some of the other BS majors.

I don't think the jobs are plenty in any field right now. Some just better than others, but people are still facing fierce competition with other job seekers.
I've never heard anything about Ancient Dung Studies.

Anything I was told, I was told by my advisors and professors, who know people with jobs.

The problem is not finding a job posting that will accept a Geography degree. It is finding one that doesn't require any experience. I was told by a professor to look for entry level jobs. One question: WHERE ARE THE ENTRY LEVEL JOBS? I don't see any posted.
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Old 08-30-2012, 10:24 PM
 
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At the last American Association of Geographers meet up we all sat around and decided to get rid of all the entry level jobs because some of the older folks were concerned that the youngin's with their fancy GIS and remote sensing tools would take the fun out of geography.
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Old 08-31-2012, 03:44 PM
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At the last American Association of Geographers meet up we all sat around and decided to get rid of all the entry level jobs because some of the older folks were concerned that the youngin's with their fancy GIS and remote sensing tools would take the fun out of geography.
I wouldn't go as far as to say that.

However, what I need is a chance. I'm spending time working on skills I've gained in college, on a trial version ArcGIS 10.1 package. What I need is a chance. I need a chance to prove I can do the job. Even if it's entry level work.
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Old 09-01-2012, 08:01 AM
 
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That is why I want to create a portfolio. I want to show that I can do it. I have a portfolio of maps. I'm trying to show anyone who asks for experience "I can do the job". I'm starting to wonder if it will ever be enough.
The problem is in thinking a degree in anything gives you the skills or knowledge to do a job.

College is now a glorified trade school because so many people go to college thinking it will get them a job and all it gets you is some education and a degree unless it's a college program like nursing where you get clinical experience.

The problem with your degree is that you have no experience in the field until you have job experience in the field and also there are probably not very many employers looking for people with your major in your small hometown.

Sometimes you have to look in oddball places if you have certain degrees and don't want to relocate. At the very least join a society of geographers, find out specifically where others with your degree are working, what kind of associated jobs there actually are out there and you may need to prepare yourself to relocate.
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Old 09-01-2012, 08:28 AM
 
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I wouldn't go as far as to say that.

However, what I need is a chance. I'm spending time working on skills I've gained in college, on a trial version ArcGIS 10.1 package. What I need is a chance. I need a chance to prove I can do the job. Even if it's entry level work.
Aye this is what basically every college grad is asking for, a chance, just a chance. I don't care if its working for free, if the pay is low, if the hours are terrible, if I am only per-diem, just a chance, give a me a chance to show my skills, to devolop my skills.

Problem is many employers don't want to give that chance or they can afford not to, they can hold out and be picky- Yes I can hire you and take a chance or I can wait and surely some other guy with xpereince will come along and I will just take him.

Its the same old story everyone wants expereince yet no one is willing to give it, instead lets just keep passing the buck and you, and all the job seeker can do is to keep looking, keep searching.

I don't think any college grad is asking to make 50k straight out, vice president, on track to become CEO in 2 years. A chance, an opportuinty is all we are asking, yet finding that opportuinity is devilishly hard
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Old 09-01-2012, 10:26 AM
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Aye this is what basically every college grad is asking for, a chance, just a chance. I don't care if its working for free, if the pay is low, if the hours are terrible, if I am only per-diem, just a chance, give a me a chance to show my skills, to devolop my skills.

Problem is many employers don't want to give that chance or they can afford not to, they can hold out and be picky- Yes I can hire you and take a chance or I can wait and surely some other guy with xpereince will come along and I will just take him.

Its the same old story everyone wants expereince yet no one is willing to give it, instead lets just keep passing the buck and you, and all the job seeker can do is to keep looking, keep searching.

I don't think any college grad is asking to make 50k straight out, vice president, on track to become CEO in 2 years. A chance, an opportuinty is all we are asking, yet finding that opportuinity is devilishly hard
In short, the best I can do is to keep looking and keep begging, and ever that isn't enough.
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Old 09-01-2012, 10:32 AM
 
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in short yes, all you can do is look harder, keep going to the job fairs etc... or heck forget about "your dream field of work" and look into something unrelated to your degree
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Old 09-01-2012, 11:38 AM
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in short yes, all you can do is look harder, keep going to the job fairs etc... or heck forget about "your dream field of work" and look into something unrelated to your degree
The thing is, I can't just forget about my dream field. If I was to do that, what would be the point of going to college?

And I haven't been to any job fair because I don't have the transportation to do so.
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Old 09-01-2012, 11:41 AM
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The problem is in thinking a degree in anything gives you the skills or knowledge to do a job.

College is now a glorified trade school because so many people go to college thinking it will get them a job and all it gets you is some education and a degree unless it's a college program like nursing where you get clinical experience.

The problem with your degree is that you have no experience in the field until you have job experience in the field and also there are probably not very many employers looking for people with your major in your small hometown.

Sometimes you have to look in oddball places if you have certain degrees and don't want to relocate. At the very least join a society of geographers, find out specifically where others with your degree are working, what kind of associated jobs there actually are out there and you may need to prepare yourself to relocate.
Then how does a person like me get experience?

And by the way, I would have to pay in order to join a society of geographers. Membership is not free. If it was free, I would have done it by now.
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Old 09-01-2012, 12:07 PM
 
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The thing is, I can't just forget about my dream field. If I was to do that, what would be the point of going to college?

And I haven't been to any job fair because I don't have the transportation to do so.
I understand the feeling. I didn't graduate with the same degree you did, but I did pick a field that doesn't really have a lot of opportunity in it. And the opportunities that do come up have a lot of competition...think 700+ applicants for one opening.

I know it's hard to give up on your dream, but there comes a time where you have to be practical and start thinking about things like saving up for a car or a place of your own. I'm currently exploring another field and may volunteer once a week in it so I can keep my full-time job while seeing if this path is right for me. I don't want to give up either, but I think it might be for the better.
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