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Old 08-04-2012, 12:22 PM
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Location: Tall Building down by the river
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I've gotten jobs this way. So have many of my friends. Give it a shot.
So how do you go about getting the email for the Hiring manager and explaining in the email how you found his or her information?
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Old 08-04-2012, 12:29 PM
 
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So how do you go about getting the email for the Hiring manager and explaining in the email how you found his or her information?
Infiltrate your network. Especially if it's a job in the same area as to where your primary network is, there's bound to be a connection. Then you can be like, "I got your contact info through RADIOandArtsGuy. We go to the same club. He had wonderful things to say about you and mentioned you had a 'vette. I have a '69 Camaro myself". And then you've answered his question and changed the topic to something more interesting at the same time.
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Old 08-04-2012, 12:31 PM
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Infiltrate your network. Especially if it's a job in the same area as to where your primary network is, there's bound to be a connection.
I found the email for the hiring manager being creative and discovered she is not in my network. Now what?
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Old 08-04-2012, 12:38 PM
 
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Yeah right, the hiring manager is then going to wonder why in the hell does some complete stranger want to take him/her out to dinner, and will probably be even more suspicious of that person.
My experience has varies from yours. I find 1 one 1 meetings to be more effective than cold applications.
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Old 08-04-2012, 12:57 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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So how do you go about getting the email for the Hiring manager and explaining in the email how you found his or her information?
Google and LinkedIn.
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Old 08-04-2012, 01:30 PM
 
Location: California
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Since resumes aren't even read by humans anymore, have any of you put in a list of keywords in a white font so they can be read by the resume scanners with any success?

I'm working on redoing my resume since I haven't gotten a call in a while with the hundreds of resumes I've sent in.
Sites such as Careerbuilder will edit employer posts against doing this. Actually, they will refuse to post them and send info to the employer that their ad violates their terms of use. And before anyone asks, I know this because I am in charge of the Careerbuilder posts at work any EVERYTIME someone new takes charge, CB likes to do an orientation. This is one of the things they stress.


I am guessing that any HR office will also have one of their filters set to making sure resumes with a "list of keywords" at the bottom are automatically filtered as "junk".

Sorry.
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Old 08-04-2012, 01:33 PM
 
Location: California
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So how do you go about getting the email for the Hiring manager and explaining in the email how you found his or her information?
LinkedIn can be useful. I get emails all the time from people as I am listed as the company's HR/Compliance contact. (Actually, I am the only one, LOL, but as I am doing the initial resume scanning, I am the one they want to contact anyway)
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Old 08-04-2012, 01:51 PM
 
Location: here
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And then it'll get tossed in the garbage can because you circumvented the process.

You just can't win.
Don't send it to the hiring manager INSTEAD of to HR. Send it to both.
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Old 08-04-2012, 02:26 PM
 
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Don't send it to the hiring manager INSTEAD of to HR. Send it to both.
For the record, I'm NOT saying one can't be successful doing that.

However, more likely than not, it's going to blacklist you for the position because it'll be considered that you sent in two applications at once. In most small business, the Hiring Manager is the head of Human Resources, thus they're one in the same and you're sending your resume to both of them. In other organizations, chances are both departments will see your one application anyway (the Hiring Manager will see it to interview and select the candidates, HR will see it to filter the applicants and process your paperwork).
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Old 08-04-2012, 02:31 PM
 
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For the record, I'm NOT saying one can't be successful doing that.

However, more likely than not, it's going to blacklist you for the position because it'll be considered that you sent in two applications at once. In most small business, the Hiring Manager is the head of Human Resources, thus they're one in the same and you're sending your resume to both of them. In other organizations, chances are both departments will see your one application anyway (the Hiring Manager will see it to interview and select the candidates, HR will see it to filter the applicants and process your paperwork).
I didn't say to send an application to 2 different places. Submit an application and whatever is requested, and send a resume and cover letter to the dept manager, if you can find out who it is. I also never said anything about small businesses.
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