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Old 09-13-2012, 01:29 PM
 
Location: St Thomas, US Virgin Islands
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Originally Posted by Goldblum57 View Post
No, and he never will. My question is how big does a corporation have to be before it becomes evil?
I think to some people it only has to be a d/b/a or have any name followed by any abbreviation such as LLC, Inc., Ltd, Co/& Co, & Sons, etc. As soon as a business is registered it's a suspect entity operated by evil people with evil intent.
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Old 09-13-2012, 01:30 PM
 
Location: St Thomas, US Virgin Islands
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You don't see the irony in this post?
Are you maybe going out on a limb a bit assuming that the word "irony" is understood?
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Old 09-14-2012, 05:21 AM
 
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If anyone lies on their resume it only shows one thing: They learned from the employers. They learned from the best liars around. Two can play that game and MANY succeed no matter what the people here who have NEVER lied thinks.

For the moralists here is a little thing for you: "Don't judge others for sinning differently than you do"
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Old 09-14-2012, 08:47 AM
 
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If anyone lies on their resume it only shows one thing: They learned from the employers. They learned from the best liars around. Two can play that game and MANY succeed no matter what the people here who have NEVER lied thinks.

For the moralists here is a little thing for you: "Don't judge others for sinning differently than you do"
I couldn't have said it better myself.

People who know how to play the game usually succeed in life. Employers already assume your going to lie because they themselves lie to candidates and you know the sane "It takes one to know one".
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Old 09-14-2012, 09:06 AM
 
Location: Petticoat Junction
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Couldn't agree more. I think everyone should lie. In fact, lie harder, faster and with more sincerity. There are more lies in you, set them free!
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Old 09-14-2012, 01:05 PM
 
Location: The City That Never Sleeps
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I couldn't have said it better myself.

People who know how to play the game usually succeed in life. Employers already assume your going to lie because they themselves lie to candidates and you know the sane "It takes one to know one".
Pretty much so. It's all about playing the game and winning. Willpower and force rule the world. The meek, the truthtellers, the sheep and others similar do not play, and as a result do not win. Excluding yourself from the game means you automatically lose.
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Old 09-14-2012, 02:20 PM
 
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Pretty much so. It's all about playing the game and winning. Willpower and force rule the world. The meek, the truthtellers, the sheep and others similar do not play, and as a result do not win. Excluding yourself from the game means you automatically lose.
Willpower and force are not mutually exclusive from telling the truth.

The people who are most successful are the forceful, strong willed people who also do not lie.
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Old 09-14-2012, 03:03 PM
 
Location: The City That Never Sleeps
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Willpower and force are not mutually exclusive from telling the truth.

The people who are most successful are the forceful, strong willed people who also do not lie.
So basically all those who succeed tell the truth all the time? That is logically impossible. Then the other "flip logic side" is that all those who do not tell the truth are failures? There is plenty of evidence to discredit both positions.

The whole concept of imposing both willpower and force absolutely include in not revealing the truth, if not lying completely. There is plenty of history and current events to prove this. On the job hunt side, imposing your will in getting a job means doing whatever you must. You should be forthright if you see it can gets you hired (very unlikely today for many), and get creative with the truth if that is what actually does get you hired.

If you want to believe failed logic, go ahead. I've spent enough time in corporate America to know what's really going on. Um, that's why I left it years ago...I will not argue and debate this issue.
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Old 09-14-2012, 03:07 PM
 
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So basically all those who succeed tell the truth all the time? That is logically impossible. Then the other "flip logic side" is that all those who do not tell the truth are failures? There is plenty of evidence to discredit both positions.
When did I ever say this? Don't put words in my mouth. Speaking in absolutes in debates simply shows ignorance.

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The whole concept of imposing both willpower and force absolutely include in not revealing the truth, if not lying completely. There is plenty of history and current events to prove this. On the job hunt side, imposing your will in getting a job means doing whatever you must. You should be forthright if you see it can gets you hired (very unlikely today for many), and get creative with the truth if that is what actually does get you hired.

If you want to believe failed logic, go ahead. I've spent enough time in corporate America to know what's really going on. Um, that's why I left it years ago...I will not argue and debate this issue.
If you want to believe this, go right ahead, however it will be you who suffers. The people who think you have to 'play the game' in corporate america become bitter middle managers, and never anything more.
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Old 09-14-2012, 03:17 PM
 
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No, and he never will. My question is how big does a corporation have to be before it becomes evil?
Well there's certain trolls on this forum that will say that all corporations are evil. Every employer is Enron to them.
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