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Old 09-20-2012, 11:40 AM
 
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Old 09-20-2012, 11:41 AM
 
Location: Corona the I.E.
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This really isn't true. Americans are significantly behind other areas of the world in terms of the more technical skills.

I think PEOPLE create jobs, not governments. I think if we had enough qualified people in the more intellectually based fields, they absolutely would create jobs. Personally? I would much rather hire an American than have to deal with offshore contractors, but it is simply very difficult to find a competent computer programmer without going to a contracting firm. The last open position we posted got five resumes total, working a typical 40 hour week paying $70k/year. There just flat out are not that many Americans who know how to do that kind of work.
Do you reallly expect people to believe that. I know a lot of programmers and know people that own offshore companies with programmers and it all comes down to $$$. My friend, who's family friend owns a software company in Ukraine. He started the biz in Florida, when costs became to high, he offshored to India when that got too popular to continue, he moved to Ukraine. Guess why? $$$$ So don't tell me we don't have the programming talent in the US because we do, it comes down to $$$$$. And he gets to pay them real cheap because they want $USD under the table because they have no faith in their own currency.
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Old 09-20-2012, 02:29 PM
 
Location: Nassau, Long Island, NY
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Do you reallly expect people to believe that. I know a lot of programmers and know people that own offshore companies with programmers and it all comes down to $$$. My friend, who's family friend owns a software company in Ukraine. He started the biz in Florida, when costs became to high, he offshored to India when that got too popular to continue, he moved to Ukraine. Guess why? $$$$ So don't tell me we don't have the programming talent in the US because we do, it comes down to $$$$$. And he gets to pay them real cheap because they want $USD under the table because they have no faith in their own currency.
Exactly what I'm talking about!
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Old 09-22-2012, 10:40 AM
 
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Do you reallly expect people to believe that. I know a lot of programmers and know people that own offshore companies with programmers and it all comes down to $$$. My friend, who's family friend owns a software company in Ukraine. He started the biz in Florida, when costs became to high, he offshored to India when that got too popular to continue, he moved to Ukraine. Guess why? $$$$ So don't tell me we don't have the programming talent in the US because we do, it comes down to $$$$$. And he gets to pay them real cheap because they want $USD under the table because they have no faith in their own currency.

Agreed.
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Old 09-22-2012, 06:34 PM
 
Location: Earth Wanderer, longing for the stars.
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. . . It isn't anyone's responsibility to grow the economy and create jobs but you and me. If you don't have a job, figure out how to improve yourself to the point where you can get or create one. Until you understand that, you will have a very, very tough time in life.
But it was the government and financial sector that created this mess that we're living through. Part of the problem is government bailouts and special treatment towards large mega corporations. If they were allowed to fail without getting our taxpayer handouts there would be encouragement for competitors to take over.

If they are given tax breaks and bailouts by us we should expect jobs in return. The banks were given money for their bad debts with the expectation that they would offer loans for mortagages and small business startups. Did they do this? No, they used the money to build more branches and to stimulate foriegn businesses.
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Old 09-22-2012, 06:41 PM
 
Location: Earth Wanderer, longing for the stars.
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I had to (temporarily) unhide hnsq's post since I have him on Ignore, to see what this was about.

hnsq has in recent weeks variously pretended to be a small business owner, a gunsmith, a restauranteur, and now the boss at a software company. Whatever's convenient to make himself seem important in the given thread.

That's the part that's the lie.
So, we are wasting our time dealing with him?
Hnsq is lying to us?
Oh, the shock of it!
Catch me, I'm fainting!
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Old 09-22-2012, 06:52 PM
 
Location: Corona the I.E.
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So, we are wasting our time dealing with him?
Hnsq is lying to us?
Oh, the shock of it!
Catch me, I'm fainting!
Thanks I needed that sarcasm. Oh BTW Buffet just called me so I am no longer UE I am working on his main trading desk.
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Old 09-22-2012, 06:57 PM
 
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So, we are wasting our time dealing with him?
Hnsq is lying to us?
Oh, the shock of it!
Catch me, I'm fainting!
It is funny how he disappeared once someone caught him in his lie.

I imagine many of the other trolls are shape shifters too.
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Old 09-23-2012, 05:46 AM
 
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It is funny how he disappeared once someone caught him in his lie.

I imagine many of the other trolls are shape shifters too.

I noticed that too.
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Old 09-23-2012, 07:01 AM
 
Location: The City That Never Sleeps
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Guys and gals, ALL these moralist trolls are shapeshifters...they play on the side of the Banks and Big Brother Corporate.
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