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Old 12-07-2012, 10:53 AM
 
Location: The Triad (NC)
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Originally Posted by goldengrain View Post
There are people who lie to get a job...
This is about what the other 98% will and should do.
Or were you really suggesting that the liars and cheats be held out as the example?
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Old 12-07-2012, 11:18 AM
 
Location: Nassau, Long Island, NY
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I ALWAYS increased my salary at my current job. ALWAYS.
That could work against you with some employers.

For example, when I was looking for a new job I told the truth about my current salary.

It's a good thing I did, because later after I got the new offer I got an email about my first day of work (which was coming up on the next day) and what to bring. One of the things they wanted me to bring was my most recent paystub. I brought it and they took a photocopy of it. Now what would have happened if I had lied about my salary? I would have been up s____ creek!
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Old 12-07-2012, 11:34 AM
 
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Except that working hard doesn't guarantee you anything...so what if working hard and lying both got you what you wanted?
Being a scumbag isn't worth a better job to me. You might feel differently.
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Old 12-07-2012, 02:33 PM
 
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Agreed. There's embellishing and there's lying. Don't put anything on your resume of a pertinent nature (i.e. education, former jobs) that isn't true. That stuff is easily checkable and if it doesn't check out, YOU'RE out. But, everyone "fluffs up" their duties at former (or current) job(s) on their resumes.
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I ALWAYS increased my salary at my current job. ALWAYS.
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There are people who lie to get a job in their desired field, perform excellently to get a track record, and then go on to their next job not having to lie. They lied to get their foot in the door of their chosen field.
I think that's a valid strategy depending on a couple of things. I'm not going to get into why or when you should do it...there's some sociological, pecking order type stuff in there. There are also times it's beneficial to lower it. I always use compensation for a reason I left one of my past jobs...in this case it was the truth.
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Old 12-07-2012, 07:59 PM
 
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Being a scumbag isn't worth a better job to me. You might feel differently.
Is eating worth "being a scumbag?" How about buying new shoes for your child, whose toes are poking out through the old ones?

Just trying to calibrate my self righteousness meter.
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Old 12-07-2012, 08:18 PM
 
Location: The Triad (NC)
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Is eating worth "being a scumbag?"
How about buying new shoes for your child, whose toes are poking out through the old ones?
When you're faced with that situation... report back on what you do.

In the mean time... try focusing on the application process for career positions this thread is about.
The sorts of jobs that people went to uni for, and have professional certs in, and hopefully
some actual (and positive) experience doing. You don't lie when making these applications.
It's no more complicated than that.

What people might do to get some crappy get by job is another discussion...
and one where far more latitude on accuracy is tolerated (and even encouraged).
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Old 12-07-2012, 08:56 PM
 
Location: London
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When it comes to skills, don't bother lying about skills you don't have. I can't count how many times I've seen new hires get "found out" on their first day of work.
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Old 12-07-2012, 11:19 PM
 
Location: California
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Originally Posted by JLBENEDICT View Post
The resume is NOT a legal binding document that is governed by any laws..
The resume is a Marketing tool
Marketing is an industry that constantly lies, stretches the truth, and pulls no stops..

That's my summary
You are incorrect. When you submit an application online, read the fine print, you are attesting to the truth of it. When you sign an application you state that you are aware that anything you turn in to the company becomes part of your hiring package.

So, be careful...it is legal and they can terminate you for cause for lying on a resume
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Old 12-07-2012, 11:59 PM
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Location: Tall Building down by the river
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When it comes to skills, don't bother lying about skills you don't have. I can't count how many times I've seen new hires get "found out" on their first day of work.

First day of work?? No one works on Day 1 they are completing paperwork, meeting their coworkers, and getting their work area set up
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Old 12-08-2012, 09:18 AM
 
Location: Hanover, PA
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You are incorrect. When you submit an application online, read the fine print, you are attesting to the truth of it. When you sign an application you state that you are aware that anything you turn in to the company becomes part of your hiring package.

So, be careful...it is legal and they can terminate you for cause for lying on a resume

You are talking about a JOB APPLICATION; not a resume.

I'm fully aware of the fine print regarding a job application.
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