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Old 12-28-2012, 11:32 AM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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That's right. Last year it was decided to make public the salary of everyone where I work by putting it on the corporate website. Our department director called us in and warned us about the division this could cause amongst staff and asked us to be mature about it. Maybe twice since have I looked up the salary of a specific person, but I'm not going to study it in-depth. You do hear nasty remarks from time to time about so-and-so and how much money she makes, etc. I'm at the lower end of the range for my pay grade, but I also do not have the educational credentials of my fellow coworkers in my pay grade, so I just keep my mouth shut and hope they never figure out that I didn't go to college even though I am at the same level as they are with their Master's degrees, hehehe.

That's nuts. What was the reasoning behind this?
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Old 12-28-2012, 01:15 PM
 
Location: Elsewhere
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That's nuts. What was the reasoning behind this?
Political ambitions.
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Old 12-28-2012, 01:41 PM
 
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Political ambitions.
I meant the reasoning/justification behind making all salaries visible to everyone. What problem did they think this was going to solve?
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Old 12-28-2012, 05:14 PM
 
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I meant the reasoning/justification behind making all salaries visible to everyone. What problem did they think this was going to solve?
The idea that a public transportation agency wasn't being transparent enough as a reaction to media accusations of same. We are not government, so we are not supported by taxes, but the users of our facilities pay via tolls or fees built into prices (for example, we have airports, so when you buy an airline ticket, the airlines' lease $$$ are built into the ticket price--in that way, you are indirectly paying the salaries of the employees of the transportation agency). The media is regularly on the attack, and will publish the information that provides the best reaction--for example, a small percentage of our police made enormous amounts of overtime--it's published, and made to look like the norm for police salaries rather than the exception, or the salaries of the 1% highest-paid positions would be published in an attempt to imply that all 7000 employees are that highly paid.

The idea was just put it all out there for ANYONE to look at, and the media (there's one outlet in particular that targets us) won't have a story.
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Old 12-28-2012, 06:21 PM
 
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1) IF THAT is the way they responded to that you need new management and at minimum a new PR person. Many times you have GOOD PR people, and company management won't listen to them about how to handle an issue.

But yeah, the media can be rotten in that way. I CAN see WHY the authority/agency did it. I just don't think they HAD to do it that way.
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Old 12-28-2012, 07:16 PM
 
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1) IF THAT is the way they responded to that you need new management and at minimum a new PR person. Many times you have GOOD PR people, and company management won't listen to them about how to handle an issue.

But yeah, the media can be rotten in that way. I CAN see WHY the authority/agency did it. I just don't think they HAD to do it that way.
Yeah, we don't either. We will get new executive management eventually--they come and go with the politicians who appoint them. People appear and disappear with elections.

I've been there almost 34 years, and I've seen good executive decisions and ridiculous ones. Right now we're in very ridiculous mode. The problem is always very basic--the people making the decisions about what we will and will not do are absolutely clueless about the businesses for which they are making decisions. If the political appointee in charge listens to the staff who actually DO know the business, things run more smoothly. If they do not listen to those who are knowledgeable, and make unrealistic demands not based on realities of existing situations or the industry, there are problems. We're in the latter situation right now.

At this point in my career, when I can see the end in sight, it's sad to watch, but I am going to continue to do my job as well as I can and just observe the circus.
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Old 12-29-2012, 09:57 AM
 
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If anyone was to "take my job" it would be a physics major or a electrical engineer. I have looked at the ranges for other job listings but they say stuff like 90k or 100k and although I want 100k a year, seems far fetched for a recent graduate.

But, you have given me a really great idea! I wonder what will happen if I sort the jobs on indeed or other career sites by pay range? Indeed estimates how much some positions would pay... hmmmm...

Question for my interest; If an HR guy responded to my application with some basic questions about how much I require, and I respond with a higher range than I thought I would get. Then, he the sets up an interview. Did he except my range?
I wouldn't necessarily say that but I do think that he thinks your range is not far off. But it's also possible he's just fishing for a lowball who knows. If I were you I would look for electrical engineer jobs with experience and then look for them without and subtract down, and then do the same with the 100k jobs(say it's 3 years experience for the optical job, find an EE job with 3 years compared with entry level and see what rate the salaries increase), and you can find a ballpark. It will be rough of course.
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