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Old 02-06-2013, 07:57 PM
 
Location: California
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Hello,

I had a great interview followed by a verbal offer the next morning. A few hours later I received a termination package from the current (now previous) employer.

The prospective employer sent me a written offer and an employment application after 3 days of negotiation. I signed, and now they are to conduct a background check.

Should I tell them now? I can't lie on an employment application - this will be a wrong way to start the job.
You are fine. Be honest going forward. You did not lie on the application or any interviews. You had a job at the time. Make sure on anything going forward that you disclose that you were laid off.
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Old 02-06-2013, 11:47 PM
 
Location: Salinas, CA
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I totally agree with jaypee on this. You should not penalize yourself for an unethical eleventh hour decision by your former employer. The prospective employer has all the relevant information to make a decision. I would not complicate matters.
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Old 02-07-2013, 05:33 AM
 
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I'm not concerned about my survival... not yet. I've been only looking for 2 weeks, and already have a few job prospects. I'm sure one of them will produce an offer even if this one blows up.

This thread is really about this particular situation. The employer did ask me verbally about the reasons I wanted to quit, and I answered honestly that my office was going to be closed soon and that I don't like to work remotely. But this was before the layoff. Now I'm concern that they expected me to say to them about the layoff as soon as it happened. I didn't and now I'm having second thoughts.

If I were them, I would understand that candidates want to be careful and not offer information unless asked... But still this is a very tricky situation...
I think you are making a mountain out of a mole hill.

You told them during interviews your office was going to be closed soon and you didn't want to work remotely. Aka that would mean you would be getting laid off.

Now you are laid off.

I fail to see why you think this is so materially different than the expectations you have already set with the new employer.
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Old 02-07-2013, 05:40 AM
 
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.... Now I'm concern that they expected me to say to them about the layoff as soon as it happened....
No, they really aren't expecting this.

You accepted an offer with them. They are focused on hiring you. They fully expect that you resign from the other company any time. Some folks resign as soon as they accept another offer. Some folks immediately give a 2 week notice but are told to leave the same day due to company policy.

You owe them no more uninitiated discussion on your prior job. The interviews are over. You were honest.

Only answer any questions they have on the matter.

The only issue here is the background check. The background check will confirm with your company the following, and place it on the background chech docucuments: Start Date, End Date, Job Title, whether full or part-time, salary(possibly, some provide it and others don't). You are good for the background check also. they will likely think that you resigned as soon as you got the job offer, once they see the end date for the prior job. they probably won't even think it's an issue at all, since many other candidates have the same situation.
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Old 02-07-2013, 10:04 AM
 
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that sucks. Just tell them the truth, the must understand. I would.
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Old 02-07-2013, 11:06 AM
 
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I'm not concerned about my survival... not yet. I've been only looking for 2 weeks, and already have a few job prospects. I'm sure one of them will produce an offer even if this one blows up.

This thread is really about this particular situation. The employer did ask me verbally about the reasons I wanted to quit, and I answered honestly that my office was going to be closed soon and that I don't like to work remotely. But this was before the layoff. Now I'm concern that they expected me to say to them about the layoff as soon as it happened. I didn't and now I'm having second thoughts.

If I were them, I would understand that candidates want to be careful and not offer information unless asked... But still this is a very tricky situation...
You're making more out of this than you need to. You just said this new employer asked why you were leaving and you already told them "my office was going to be closed soon", well it happened the impending layoff occurred.

They already know your current job was going away.

Go ahead an apply for UE benefits, hopefully you won't need them, but do it anyway.

But there is nothing to explain, you already told them you were looking for a new job as you knew your current position was going to end, and now it has.
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Old 02-07-2013, 02:32 PM
 
Location: Corona the I.E.
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If forced to address the issue, I'd simply tell the new employer that the old employer heard about the interview and fired me.
That's good rep'd. go with that.
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Old 02-08-2013, 02:52 PM
 
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You were planning to jump ship anyway. While your new employer would understand if you needed to work out a 2 week notice, they also understand that once you give notice the current employer may wish to end things sooner. I think the only time they'd be concerned is if you had trotted into your old workplace the day you got their offer singing "Take This Job and Shove It" then left them in the lurch scrambling to find a replacement. In your case, no replacement was desired by them.

Be honest if asked, but don't offer an answer to an unasked question.
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Old 02-09-2013, 10:16 AM
 
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Be honest if asked, but don't offer an answer to an unasked question.

Always good advice.
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