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I've had people ask me to be a reference before and I warn them that I was not really close enough to their work or do not remember enough details to be helpful (I hired over 200 freelancers for about 12 months - I get requests occasionally from this group). If they use me as a reference anyway, I tell the person who calls exactly what I told the person who asked me to be a reference.
Again, this is a good and HONEST response. It's not positive nor negative, but at least it shows that the person DID work with you and they weren't lying.
What the OP did was a grimey move. Extremely, extremely GRIMEY.
Again, this is a good and HONEST response. It's not positive nor negative, but at least it shows that the person DID work with you and they weren't lying.
What the OP did was a grimey move. Extremely, extremely GRIMEY.
Or catty, vindictive, jealous.....whatever.
Sux that something in your past can come back and bite you in the butt like that.
Sux that something in your past can come back and bite you in the butt like that.
There are people saying a person continuing to use them as a reference years after they worked together is insulting, rude, obnoxious and so they give them a bad reference because of it. It's not like they don't know who the person is and can't give them a good reference from what they DO remember. They just want to be grimey about it.
Or they put "code words" in the references to let the caller know they have nothing positive to say.
What type of joy do you get out of doing this to someone?
It is not possible to sign away your rights. Slander is slander...there is no such piece of paper that is legally binding that absolves someone of slander. The document is the company's attempt to head off reference lawsuits...but if the company flat out lies,well, the paper isn't worth the ink used to print it.
It's weird to me as I only asked my past supervisors ONCE to use them as references. I thought it was implied that I could use them anytime........
Adding......if I suddenly decided that it wasn't in my best interest to give a good reference, then I would certainly let the person know BEFORE they used me.
There are people saying a person continuing to use them as a reference years after they worked together is insulting, rude, obnoxious and so they give them a bad reference because of it. It's not like they don't know who the person is and can't give them a good reference from what they DO remember. They just want to be grimey about it.
Or they put "code words" in the references to let the caller know they have nothing positive to say.
What type of joy do you get out of doing this to someone?
All because they haven't kept in touch with you??
Freaking slimey man.
So, you haven't talked to someone in years...no phone calls to say hello, no emails or Facebook messages and you find out they are giving out your contact information to people you do not know and were not expecting to hear from...and that's fine with you?
It is not possible to sign away your rights. Slander is slander...there is no such piece of paper that is legally binding that absolves someone of slander. The document is the company's attempt to head off reference lawsuits...but if the company flat out lies,well, the paper isn't worth the ink used to print it.
thebunny speaks the truth again.
I'm comin' to you with all of my HR questions from now on.
So, you haven't talked to someone in years...no phone calls to say hello, no emails or Facebook messages and you find out they are giving out your contact information to people you do not know and were not expecting to hear from...and that's fine with you?
Yep.
If someone asks me to be their "good' reference once, it's forever unless I let them know otherwise.
I don't understand why you have a problem with this but I respect your attitude. I sincerely hope that you let folks know this...e.g.,
"Contact me before you use me as a reference...pleez".
If someone asks me to be their "good' reference once, it's forever unless I let them know otherwise.
I don't understand why you have a problem with this but I respect your attitude. I sincerely hope that you let folks know this...e.g.,
"Contact me before you use me as a reference...pleez".
I actually always do contact mine and make sure it is ok. And to make sure I have the correct phone numbers...I talk to people via Facebook and email so often that sometimes a cell phone number chage or preferred method of contact slips through.
I also like to let them know the name of the company I am applying for and the role, so they have a chance to consider if I would be a good fit, and why. This helps as that way the person who gets the call knows to expect it and is not surprised.
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