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Old 03-17-2013, 03:48 PM
 
Location: California
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The OP posted that the job had the requirement of 2 years experience...not unreasonable.
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Old 03-17-2013, 05:05 PM
 
Location: broke leftist craphole Illizuela
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I think the end result of this will be a real skills shortage in a decade or so when all the experienced baby boomers retire and the generation of workers that were to replace them ended up stuck working retail and were never developed.

The long term loss of knowledge that this short sighted policy of not training or developing employees causes will be a major issue.
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Old 03-17-2013, 05:25 PM
 
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The only way to get it through people's thick skulls is for there to be a collapse and we are heading down that path. In 10 years we are going to have packs of people with no work history who were shut out and abandoned by the sociopaths.
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Old 03-17-2013, 06:47 PM
 
Location: Tucson for awhile longer
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A statistic from Sheryl Sandberg's book Lean In: "Men apply for jobs when they meet roughly 60 percent of the stated requirements; women when they meet 100 percent of them."

I constantly see people GET jobs they lack the requirements for all the time (women as well as men). So why not?
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Old 03-17-2013, 06:49 PM
 
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if it doesn't take to long you might as well throw out an application. I did so for a job 2-3 tiers above my standard level and for some reason they want an interview...
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Old 03-17-2013, 06:51 PM
 
Location: MO->MI->CA->TX->MA
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Also keep in mind even if you don't meet the requirements but they have a lesser job they're trying to fill (but not advertised yet), they may consider you for that too.
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Old 03-17-2013, 07:01 PM
 
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Make sure you have ALL of the required. All of them. And make sure you have most of the preferred. The only thing I was missing was the healthcare experience. I had all of the other experience they asked for and I got the job.
Agreed. That is what I find is that I have all required and most of the preferred. But on the healthcare and banking, I end up passing those up because of that one thing. It seems that we both miss out on a great job fit due to one requirement that could most likely be trained in short order.
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Old 03-17-2013, 07:53 PM
 
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Soon the online applications will have a program that doesn't allow an applicant to even submit an application if they don't meet and exceed all prerequisites designed for that specific job. A lovely lovely age we are moving into. Some of the evidence of this is that the middle class is evaporating. And has been for awhile. But I think we are on the fast track for that to happen. I remember last week, over the radio, the DJ announced job openings at various low paying part time positions. The depressing thing about that was that people waited in line for a chance to get that $8.00 an hour job. I miss the way our country had once used to be. Prosperous. One day, I sure hope we become great again..
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Old 03-17-2013, 07:58 PM
 
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I think the end result of this will be a real skills shortage in a decade or so when all the experienced baby boomers retire and the generation of workers that were to replace them ended up stuck working retail and were never developed.

The long term loss of knowledge that this short sighted policy of not training or developing employees causes will be a major issue.
This is SO true.

I've got a business idea. A firm that specializes in quality job placement: they dig deep on which hiring tools work, which are garbage, learn the culture of businesses, test applicant skills, and just general matchmake GOOD hires. Make recommendations for future hiring patterns, as well, to preserve companies from losing massive internal expertise when the last of the properly trained staff retires. HR as it should be.
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Old 03-17-2013, 08:53 PM
 
Location: California
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This is SO true.

I've got a business idea. A firm that specializes in quality job placement: they dig deep on which hiring tools work, which are garbage, learn the culture of businesses, test applicant skills, and just general matchmake GOOD hires. Make recommendations for future hiring patterns, as well, to preserve companies from losing massive internal expertise when the last of the properly trained staff retires. HR as it should be.
Specifically how clueless are you about what the HR department does?

We find out, by talking to current employees who are successful, what they do and do not like about the job. We then base the questions we ask applicants on what the currently successful employees have said. We test the skills of the applicants, both formally and informally and track and predict future hiring trends and make succession plans to fill major knowledge gaps as people promote and retire.

So, as that is my job, apparently the only difference between what HR does and what you think it should do is your perception. Therein lies the real problem.
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