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Old 06-18-2013, 06:56 PM
 
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I was offered a promotion in another city with a different organization. I accepted yesterday and gave notice today.

My current work environment is beyond terrible. Six months ago I asked to transfer to another department in the same org but they refused saying that the work I do currently is "essential." I applied for a job in the other department, got it, and our leadership told the manager to pick someone else.

Today, I was told that I would now be allowed to move to the job in the other department. This is a lateral move. The position I accepted has a 16K pay raise but is in a higher cost of living city, so it probably evens out. I love the city I am in now, but even if I move to the other department, there won't be many opportunities for advancement.

I still feel I should go. I don't trust the leadership to keep any promises. But now I have some doubts.

What would you do?
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Old 06-18-2013, 07:05 PM
 
Location: NJ
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Leave. Never accept a counteroffer.
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Old 06-18-2013, 07:08 PM
 
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i'd say very very very rarely take a counteroffer, but yeah. you don't trust the leadership and you hate your job. money's not going to make that better. and there are a lot of other reasons to not take a counteroffer. go.

congrats on the offer as well!
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Old 06-18-2013, 07:15 PM
 
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A counteroffer is not worth it. Their hand was forced to get that offer. When you outgrow that position in a year or two, you will be denied a promotion/transfer again.

If you have not been exposed to different companies, it's a good idea to see what other managers and companies are like. You take the best knowledge and experience from each company to the next company. It's how you develop.

I made a lateral move for $25k more, last year, after a layoff. My new boss is awesome and appreciates everything I do. I get some freedom to come in when I want and what projects I work on.
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Old 06-18-2013, 07:28 PM
 
Location: In the city
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Under what conditions should someone take a counteroffer?

To clarify-- the out of town job I accepted has a 16k raise. The position at my current organization in a different department is the exact same pay I have now.
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Old 06-18-2013, 07:31 PM
 
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Under what conditions should someone take a counteroffer?

To clarify-- the out of town job I accepted has a 16k raise. The position at my current organization in a different department is the exact same pay I have now.
I wouldn't. Ever. If you wanted to leave, and that's the only time they stepped in and offered you more - what's it going to take next time?

Employers either step up and pay to the level of talent they have/want/need or risk losing them. That's the game.
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Old 06-18-2013, 07:33 PM
 
Location: Brambleton, VA
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It doesn't make any sense to accept a counteroffer when you are so unhappy with the company. Now, if you are leaving because another job will pay more, but you do like your current job and just need to make more money, then it makes sense. But, it is clear that you don't like your current job, and I hope that you will like this new job more. If anything, it does give you security to get an offer like that, because say that things don't work out with the new job. It is likely that your old job would take you back. They evidently think of you highly enough to even offer you something like that. So, even though you don't like them, it is clear they like you.
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Old 06-18-2013, 07:36 PM
 
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Never ever accept a counter offer.

Run away as fast as you can.
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Old 06-18-2013, 07:36 PM
 
Location: In the city
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I wouldn't. Ever. If you wanted to leave, and that's the only time they stepped in and offered you more - what's it going to take next time?

Employers either step up and pay to the level of talent they have/want/need or risk losing them. That's the game.
Well said. I agree. If you have good employees that you abuse and only react when they have one foot out the door, you don't deserve to have those employees.
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Old 06-18-2013, 07:49 PM
 
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the only reason i'd take one is if the ONLY reason i was leaving was money. and if i was reasonably sure that my trying to leave wouldn't affect me negatively if i ended up staying.

it's very rare for both of those conditions to be met. in your case, probably neither one is. and if they are, odds are that your employer is reasonable enough that they'd just give you a raise if you asked for one, or let you transfer if you asked. i can invent some super specific scenarios where taking a counter might make sense (say, your awesome boss has someone above them who was preventing a raise and then relented when you gave notice, or if for some weird reason you didn't ask for a raise in the first place), but, like i said, odds are those situations are never going to happen. and they definitely don't apply to you.

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