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Old 06-25-2013, 06:46 PM
 
Location: Man with a tan hat
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Take Job B.

I admire your ethics in not wanting to take B and then back out. Bravo.

With that said, do not expect to be treated with the same level of ethics. I have seen positions I would have sworn were a done deal fall apart at the last minute. The folks communicating with you from Job A may be totally sincere, but if something happens outside their control to derail your candidacy, they most likely cant help you.

If you've waited as long as possible, you should take the offer you have. Also remember, no job offer is official until you have it in writing.

Best of luck to you.

And this one.
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Old 06-25-2013, 07:01 PM
 
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Take Job B. If Job A comes through and looks better, accept it and leave B. Its ugly, but the employer would do it to you in a heartbeat. In a year, nobody will even remember it.
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Old 06-25-2013, 08:24 PM
 
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Go with B. I've heard of so many (and seen a few) that sound similar to A: saying "we want you, you're our top choice" and acting really excited..and then the offer falls through. I don't want that to happen to you. They've dragged their feet for too long.
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Old 06-25-2013, 10:24 PM
 
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Have you had the pleasure of a response from the University today? Tomorrow is D-day for you.
Yes, tomorrow is indeed D-Day. Just spent the past 5 hours talking with friends and family. The executive director of Job A has offered to give me a firm offer, in writing, for a independent contractor position (with a prorated higher salary to cover benefits) until the university moves their butt and approves me. This contractor position would be so that I would have something official from them until the bureaucracy finally moves.

Still debating/making lists/pulling my hair out from frustration.
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Old 06-26-2013, 06:44 AM
 
Location: Man with a tan hat
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Yes, tomorrow is indeed D-Day. Just spent the past 5 hours talking with friends and family. The executive director of Job A has offered to give me a firm offer, in writing, for a independent contractor position (with a prorated higher salary to cover benefits) until the university moves their butt and approves me. This contractor position would be so that I would have something official from them until the bureaucracy finally moves.

Still debating/making lists/pulling my hair out from frustration.

Don't do it! You have no idea how much hassle it is to be independent contractor. How on earth are they going to give you benefits if you are not their employee? And what's to stop them from just lingering on your hire while they "try you out" for months and months?

OP you seem DETERMINED to get burned on this, to which I say, experience is the best teacher. If you won't listen to reason, be prepared for disappointment.
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Old 06-26-2013, 08:25 AM
 
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Yes, tomorrow is indeed D-Day. Just spent the past 5 hours talking with friends and family. The executive director of Job A has offered to give me a firm offer, in writing, for a independent contractor position (with a prorated higher salary to cover benefits) until the university moves their butt and approves me. This contractor position would be so that I would have something official from them until the bureaucracy finally moves.

Still debating/making lists/pulling my hair out from frustration.
So, where is the firm offer in writing which was offered? Make sure it includes a guarantee of the transition to a full time job, or otherwise compensates you if they don't come through.

I don't have as much difficulty dealing with being an independent contractor (there are actually certain benefits--like tax deductions for many things) as long as the gaps (for things like health insurance, vacations, holidays, performance reviews, compensation reviews, authority, access to resources, etc.) are clearly addressed. It will take just as long (longer) to have an attorney draw up the paperwork as it will to have the original job offer pushed through.

Sticky situation getting stickier. Just make sure you CYA>
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Old 06-26-2013, 10:36 AM
 
Location: Richmond, VA
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How do you make good decisions?

Experience.

How do you get experience?

Bad decisions.

It looks like you're about to get some experience, when job A gets yanked from under you and you never accepted job B.
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Old 06-26-2013, 10:51 AM
 
Location: Hougary, Texberta
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I tell ya, job B must be a horrible ass job to not want it this badly.
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Old 06-26-2013, 11:21 AM
 
Location: Man with a tan hat
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How do you make good decisions?

Experience.

How do you get experience?

Bad decisions.

It looks like you're about to get some experience, when job A gets yanked from under you and you never accepted job B.

Yup. Well said.

Its hard to watch people step off the cliff. But that is the only way they figure out how not to step off the cliff.
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Old 06-26-2013, 11:27 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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Take job B.
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