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Old 06-30-2013, 12:32 PM
 
Location: San Marcos, TX
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I hope that is not true and hopes no one writes a cover letter for a dishwasher job
It's not THAT much of an exaggeration. Haven't you seen some of the questions...

"Tell us a specific example of how you provided excellent customer service and problem solving skills in your last relevant position..."

And so you are applying for a dishwasher job and maybe you had one before. WTF are you supposed to say here?

"Well, I managed to successfully please the customer by removing all food debris from the plate they were about to be served on and NOT giving them a food-borne illness as a result. I solved the problem of food on the plate via high pressured hot water and soap."




I mean really. Some of this crap is just over the top. Employers need to bring it down a notch so that applications are at least in line with the position being applied for.

I wish we could all just be real in this whole process. Do I really need to wax poetical about the grand purpose served to all humanity in my job as a file clerk?
No... they need to know A) I am not a dumbass B) I know my alphabet and C) I don't take excessive breaks or otherwise screw around.

 
Old 06-30-2013, 12:33 PM
 
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my thoughts exactly. there's no shame in honest work.

i was a dishwasher for a bit in my early 20s - i have always had important and fulfilling things going on in my life besides work, and it was a way to make money that i didn't have to think much about at work, and not at all when i went home.

it's sort of sad that so many people seem to think that your entire worth revolves around your job. it's ok if it does, but it doesn't have to. it's totally fine if your job is just a way to support yourself so you can do what you really care about.
 
Old 06-30-2013, 12:44 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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my thoughts exactly. there's no shame in honest work.

i was a dishwasher for a bit in my early 20s - i have always had important and fulfilling things going on in my life besides work, and it was a way to make money that i didn't have to think much about at work, and not at all when i went home.

it's sort of sad that so many people seem to think that your entire worth revolves around your job. it's ok if it does, but it doesn't have to. it's totally fine if your job is just a way to support yourself so you can do what you really care about.
The issue is it is a societal label. Millennials have been told get a degree or you end up working at a gas station or fast food joint and if you take those jobs then you are a failure. Yes, this point is repeated in many threads but let's remember, comments like those, frame minds to think jobs like those are beneath them.
 
Old 06-30-2013, 12:51 PM
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Location: Tall Building down by the river
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The issue is it is a societal label. Millennials have been told get a degree or you end up working at a gas station or fast food joint and if you take those jobs then you are a failure. Yes, this point is repeated in many threads but let's remember, comments like those, frame minds to think jobs like those are beneath them.

Yup, it comes from colleges selling DREAMS
 
Old 06-30-2013, 12:58 PM
 
Location: San Marcos, TX
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my thoughts exactly. there's no shame in honest work.

i was a dishwasher for a bit in my early 20s - i have always had important and fulfilling things going on in my life besides work, and it was a way to make money that i didn't have to think much about at work, and not at all when i went home.

it's sort of sad that so many people seem to think that your entire worth revolves around your job. it's ok if it does, but it doesn't have to. it's totally fine if your job is just a way to support yourself so you can do what you really care about.
There is definitely something to be said for not having to think much at work! I always liked filing and copying for those reasons. Copying huge legal documents one after the other can almost put you to sleep though, it's kind of rhythmic.

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The issue is it is a societal label. Millennials have been told get a degree or you end up working at a gas station or fast food joint and if you take those jobs then you are a failure. Yes, this point is repeated in many threads but let's remember, comments like those, frame minds to think jobs like those are beneath them.
It's not just millennials. My ex husband, of the previous generation, was raised to think this way. His parents were/are fairly well off, they raised him to believe certain jobs were acceptable and others were not... and he took it to heart to the point of sitting on his butt for half of our 10 year marriage rather than stoop to a Walmart job. Letting the power get shut off, having his kids surviving only due to food stamps, apparently all okay compared to the alternative of a "low wage" job. I actually had a chat with the ex MIL once about the entire topic, when we were still married, and I was dragging my kids to work with me (thankfully that was possible) and she was absolutely horrified when I suggested that maybe he should apply at Target for a stocking job or something.

Hard to fight that kind of upbringing!
 
Old 06-30-2013, 01:03 PM
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Location: Tall Building down by the river
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There is definitely something to be said for not having to think much at work! I always liked filing and copying for those reasons. Copying huge legal documents one after the other can almost put you to sleep though, it's kind of rhythmic.



It's not just millennials. My ex husband, of the previous generation, was raised to think this way. His parents were/are fairly well off, they raised him to believe certain jobs were acceptable and others were not... and he took it to heart to the point of sitting on his butt for half of our 10 year marriage rather than stoop to a Walmart job. Letting the power get shut off, having his kids surviving only due to food stamps, apparently all okay compared to the alternative of a "low wage" job. I actually had a chat with the ex MIL once about the entire topic, when we were still married, and I was dragging my kids to work with me (thankfully that was possible) and she was absolutely horrified when I suggested that maybe he should apply at Target for a stocking job or something.

Hard to fight that kind of upbringing!

I feel some jobs are supposed to be beneath you as you become older and expand your education. Like me for example, I would never do any of the jobs below no matter how long I was unemployed because I have too many experience in customer service and job coaching with a college degree.

Janitor
Dishwasher
Fast Food
retail
 
Old 06-30-2013, 01:49 PM
 
Location: On the aggravation installment plan...
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I feel some jobs are supposed to be beneath you as you become older and expand your education. Like me for example, I would never do any of the jobs below no matter how long I was unemployed because I have too many experience in customer service and job coaching with a college degree.

Janitor
Dishwasher
Fast Food
retail
So what happens if you were unable to get hired or even an interview for that matter in your fields of choice and the money has run out and you are staring at an eviction/foreclosure notice in the dark because your electricity and water has been shut off? You mean to tell me you would pass up what is available to you because you are above it risking being homeless? Wow

I am about to get trained as a CNA, I have experience doing it and even though I do not want to wipe someone's ass for a living a check is a check.
 
Old 06-30-2013, 01:50 PM
 
Location: North Beach, MD on the Chesapeake
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Originally Posted by WestPhillyDude75 View Post
I feel some jobs are supposed to be beneath you as you become older and expand your education. Like me for example, I would never do any of the jobs below no matter how long I was unemployed because I have too many experience in customer service and job coaching with a college degree.

Janitor
Dishwasher
Fast Food
retail

You've posted this before and I always think of my 60 year old friends where I grew up who had good jobs until things shut down (and yes, some of them should've moved) but who, right now, would take any of those jobs listed.
 
Old 06-30-2013, 01:53 PM
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Location: Tall Building down by the river
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So what happens if you were unable to get hired or even an interview for that matter in your fields of choice and the money has run out and you are staring at an eviction/foreclosure notice in the dark because your electricity and water has been shut off? You mean to tell me you would pass up what is available to you because you are above it risking being homeless? Wow

I am about to get trained as a CNA, I have experience doing it and even though I do not want to wipe someone's ass for a living a check is a check.

Then you create a list of push come to shove jobs which are jobs that are still ok to have on a temporary basis and those jobs for me were

Data Entry
Front Desk Agent
Customer Service Specialist
Sales
 
Old 06-30-2013, 01:54 PM
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Location: Tall Building down by the river
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You've posted this before and I always think of my 60 year old friends where I grew up who had good jobs until things shut down (and yes, some of them should've moved) but who, right now, would take any of those jobs listed.


From this list I would only be able to put up with retail
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