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Old 07-21-2013, 12:21 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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You made the statement someone is stuck with whatever jobs are left and i responded with not if they start looking in places that don't have a lot of eye traffic.

For example, in the Philly Sunday paper, some of the jobs in posted inside the paper are not shown if you read the paper online. So that's why I said someone fresh out of college maybe to find a job as a front desk agent which is a lot better than retail or fast food
And there are not many places that are underground unless you talk day-laboring. Every job seeker knows that the free papers, the paid papers, job boards and community have job openings. It's not rocket science. And also sometimes these jobs are promoted across the

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The point being made is that you are taking an enormous leap in assuming that the general public - whatever the age - doesn't know that there are jobs advertised in the newspapers as in IN PRINT. This generalization is totally out there and is simply not true. I'm guessing that you recently came across someone who'd forgotten about actually looking in the classified ads of a print newspaper for a job. Based on that you've now decided that everyone is ignorant about the resource. That's funny.
Yeah, that doesn't fly. Perhaps they aren't as sought after for whatever reason (IE all sales being commissioned sales, low paying jobs for the field, ect.) but it doesn't mean people didn't look at those jobs and didn't apply. Maybe they got 4-50 applications rather than say 100+
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Old 07-21-2013, 12:56 PM
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And there are not many places that are underground unless you talk day-laboring. Every job seeker knows that the free papers, the paid papers, job boards and community have job openings. It's not rocket science. And also sometimes these jobs are promoted across the



Yeah, that doesn't fly. Perhaps they aren't as sought after for whatever reason (IE all sales being commissioned sales, low paying jobs for the field, ect.) but it doesn't mean people didn't look at those jobs and didn't apply. Maybe they got 4-50 applications rather than say 100+

So doesn't that still mean the local papers have less eye traffic if they received 4-50 resumes instead of 100?
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Old 07-21-2013, 01:01 PM
 
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So doesn't that still mean the local papers have less eye traffic if they received 4-50 resumes instead of 100?
It would yes, BUT it's still competitive in those jobs if they are applicable. Let's remember a lot of jobs in the news papers are not defined jobs. They say make X a day/week for working with us (sometimes they don't even list who is the employer.)
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Old 07-21-2013, 01:06 PM
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It would yes, BUT it's still competitive in those jobs if they are applicable. Let's remember a lot of jobs in the news papers are not defined jobs. They say make X a day/week for working with us (sometimes they don't even list who is the employer.)

The Philadelphia Inquirer has a 5 page employment section each week that has some legit jobs which states the company, email address, or fax number for your resume to be sent to.

Now the Philadelphia Daily News employment section is small so I would encourage job seekers right now to focus on the sunday paper
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Old 07-22-2013, 05:56 AM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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The Philadelphia Inquirer has a 5 page employment section each week that has some legit jobs which states the company, email address, or fax number for your resume to be sent to.

Now the Philadelphia Daily News employment section is small so I would encourage job seekers right now to focus on the sunday paper
And that's kinda fair. Most of the jobs I see in the daily papers (by me) are commission-based jobs selling newspaper subscriptions at sporting events in the rotunda. Guess what, I rather have the McDonald's job over the travel to an arena/stadium and hope that enough people sign up that goto the game out of the tens of thousands that do. I don't think anyone would disagree with that.
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Old 07-22-2013, 07:26 AM
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And that's kinda fair. Most of the jobs I see in the daily papers (by me) are commission-based jobs selling newspaper subscriptions at sporting events in the rotunda. Guess what, I rather have the McDonald's job over the travel to an arena/stadium and hope that enough people sign up that goto the game out of the tens of thousands that do. I don't think anyone would disagree with that.

I would and have taken a sales job over a Mcdonald's job any day of the week lol
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Old 07-22-2013, 12:16 PM
 
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I would and have taken a sales job over a Mcdonald's job any day of the week lol
Except if the team is on an away stretch for the week. Say the Flyers are on an away stretch of say 6 games, that is about a week and a half (if it's not back-to-back days through out.) Now unless you also do Sixers games as well... That's also considering you make a good number of sales during this time. It's like working at a car dealership, it's only good if you can actually sell a few cars.
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Old 07-22-2013, 02:31 PM
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Except if the team is on an away stretch for the week. Say the Flyers are on an away stretch of say 6 games, that is about a week and a half (if it's not back-to-back days through out.) Now unless you also do Sixers games as well... That's also considering you make a good number of sales during this time. It's like working at a car dealership, it's only good if you can actually sell a few cars.

The funny thing about sales is I am so good at it but don't want it to be my primary source of income because it's so sink or swim. The last time a sales job was my primary source of income was when I was living at home with mom so I was able to take the risk lol
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Old 07-22-2013, 03:58 PM
 
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The funny thing about sales is I am so good at it but don't want it to be my primary source of income because it's so sink or swim. The last time a sales job was my primary source of income was when I was living at home with mom so I was able to take the risk lol
And if that's the only job available is it still better than a McJob?
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Old 07-22-2013, 04:16 PM
 
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I was talking with my parents and I notice that suggestions that they offer such as going to job fairs are out dated and irrelevant. I want to know why is it that many people do not have a clue either how tough it is to be looking for work, the new processes and/or the way companies handle the processes. As I said to them, with my experience in retail and getting a customer service degree I should not "fail" a retail assessment (and yes I did just strongly agree/disagree except one in that portion.)
The bolded is why you failed the assessment. You are listening to people on this forum and they are all wrong. I develop assessments, some of which are in the retail space and I can tell you that is not the way to answer those assessments. Keep listening to everyone on this forum and answer all your assessments like that. I'm sure you'll do great.
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