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Some managers will circumvent corporate policies, others will not.
I personally feel that this is a terrible corporate policy, but companies simply do not care. After all, you have left their employment, so they owe you nothing.
"Bob, this is Joe. How's the wife? Yeah, me too-really enjoyed seeing you all last night. Let's get together this weekend.
Say, I got a potential new hire: Frank Smith, who worked for you all for a year or two. I know you guys don't give out references, but can you tell me quietly as a buddy: how is he? Worth having?
The current company I work also has a no reference policy. I think this is becoming the norm.
The funny thing is that while my current company won't give references no matter how good someone was, they also ask for them on their own application. It's a double standard.
Maybe the new company will just have to learn to take chances with people and have some sort of grace period to protect themselves if they have to let someone goes due to poor performance.
The funny thing is that while my current company won't give references no matter how good someone was, they also ask for them on their own application. It's a double standard.
I'm not sure what you mean. A previous employer may (certainly not all do) hesitate to give any information other than that which is strictly required such as length of employment, etc. However, my references were always people in business who knew me through business and community projects and were able and willing to attest to my basic character and aptitude based on my dealings with them. Nothing unusual in that and doesn't indicate any sort of "double standard".
As STT said, provide references who you have had a business relationship with outside the company, or coworkers who no longer work for the prior employer.
I work in IT for larger corporations, and the no reference policy has existed at every company I've worked at since at least the 90s. It's a policy most companies take seriously and employees violate it at their own peril. I will not, but I happily respond to requests from people I've worked with in the past at prior employers.
Still giving employment advice for a living, are ya?
I always thought a reference list with all former supervisors was attractive
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