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I'm working at relocating...I have no idea what my position goes for in the new market. I know I was severely underpaid at my previous employer but my current employer is fair for the job I'm doing. My problem is that I'm seeking a "full service" position at a new company, where I get to use all of my skills, so not only do I want more than what I'm being paid currently, but I think it's appropriate for the job itself.
How does one educate themselves on the range offered if:
1) The job title varies by company.
2) The job title often means something different i.e. tax analyst does not necessarily mean CPA so salaries that come up are often in line with someone with additional education
3) Dallas is much different than Seattle
Help? I admit, I'm a bit of a novice in this area of negotiation...
I'm working at relocating...I have no idea what my position goes for in the new market. I know I was severely underpaid at my previous employer but my current employer is fair for the job I'm doing. My problem is that I'm seeking a "full service" position at a new company, where I get to use all of my skills, so not only do I want more than what I'm being paid currently, but I think it's appropriate for the job itself.
How does one educate themselves on the range offered if:
1) The job title varies by company.
2) The job title often means something different i.e. tax analyst does not necessarily mean CPA so salaries that come up are often in line with someone with additional education
3) Dallas is much different than Seattle
Help? I admit, I'm a bit of a novice in this area of negotiation...
Look on glassdoor.com and salary.com (among others) and triangulate.
I'm working at relocating...I have no idea what my position goes for in the new market. I know I was severely underpaid at my previous employer but my current employer is fair for the job I'm doing. My problem is that I'm seeking a "full service" position at a new company, where I get to use all of my skills, so not only do I want more than what I'm being paid currently, but I think it's appropriate for the job itself.
How does one educate themselves on the range offered if:
1) The job title varies by company.
2) The job title often means something different i.e. tax analyst does not necessarily mean CPA so salaries that come up are often in line with someone with additional education
3) Dallas is much different than Seattle
Help? I admit, I'm a bit of a novice in this area of negotiation...
Try to ask on forums on here what the COL is in the area you are moving to and what wages in those positions are typically paying there.
Look on glassdoor.com and salary.com (among others) and triangulate.
I have looked at both of those websites. The problem I'm running into is I can't get an exact job title for what I do...so what info is then offered are for people with CPAs and different financial background. I have a degree and have tons of experience but I'm not an accountant. My job does not require you to be an accountant but the "ranges" I get seem to be for those types. I'm still working on it though...thanks for the tip.
Try to ask on forums on here what the COL is in the area you are moving to and what wages in those positions are typically paying there.
I know the ranges and cost of living in Dallas is lower than Seattle. I've been studying like a mad woman trying to get a fix on what I need to make (to live and some extra ) for the job I will be doing. When I pull up a salary on the previously mentioned websites, I come up with a salary that is TWICE what I'm making and that just seems off to me. Oh, trust me, if I've been that underpaid for that long, I'm more than thrilled to make that kind of dough...and I'm perfectly willing to work my tail off for it. But it does seem like I'm shooting for the moon...not used to doing that.
As others have pointed out though...throw it out there and let it stick. Don't say another word as the ball will be in their court. How often has someone put a figure out there that was high and they pulled the offer back? Or is it usually just a lower offer? You'd think at my age I'd have a better grasp on this, but I've always struggled with this aspect. But now, probably because of my age, I'm sick of cowering to the lower figure. I AM worth it and I know it...I'm dang good at my job...yikes, this part is hard for me!
1. Don't ask how much the job pays and this is the only question you ask.
Huh? you're not asking, but asking a the same time?
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Originally Posted by LexusNexus
2. I once overheard an interview (conducted in a cubicle next to my office) where the interviewer asked, "are you better than the next guy?" The quick response was, "yeah, absolutely!" - he wasn't hired. Better answer? "I can't speak for the next guy, but I can assure you that I will be the type of employee my experience shows I have always been: a very good engineer who works hard to meet deadlines and who strives to produce top quality work." - This was my answer to the same question and an offer was made to me that same night.
This seems to be a one of those cases to show some humility.
One time, I researched online, reasons why people didn't get job offers following interviews. Some "rejectees" managed to track down the reason... For one person, the VP of the company was in on the interview and felt the candidate was too good. He was afraid that if hired, the new hired would eventually replace him one day.
The only other one I can recall which isn't related but I'd like to mention anyways is for some reason, the interviewee got nervous on the 4th interview and it really showed. They rejected him, citing that reason, and that for whatever his next interview will be, "try to keep it cool"
Don't bother giving a range when negotiating salary. The low number you mention instantly becomes your starting negotiating point. Why would any employer bother to offer you more than that when you have already admitted that you will work for the low number?
Everybody knows that most people are flexible on salary, and if your number is even close to the employers expected range they will counter offer.
Determine what you want and what you think is reasonable for the position and throw that number out there.
Don't bother giving a range when negotiating salary. The low number you mention instantly becomes your starting negotiating point. Why would any employer bother to offer you more than that when you have already admitted that you will work for the low number?
Everybody knows that most people are flexible on salary, and if your number is even close to the employers expected range they will counter offer.
Determine what you want and what you think is reasonable for the position and throw that number out there.
I really think this is great advice. It's really true when you think this way...why on earth would they offer you higher when they know you'll accept a lower figure? I've been thinking about that number quite a bit, realizing that with more information, I may change it, but yes, throwing it out there and letting it fly seems best.
Question though: you say if your number is even close, they'll counteroffer...if it's not close, how do you salvage the conversation? I'd want to smooth it out but not sound desparate...you know, maintain the confidence without offending the employer...ideas?
Don't bother giving a range when negotiating salary. The low number you mention instantly becomes your starting negotiating point. Why would any employer bother to offer you more than that when you have already admitted that you will work for the low number?
Everybody knows that most people are flexible on salary, and if your number is even close to the employers expected range they will counter offer.
Determine what you want and what you think is reasonable for the position and throw that number out there.
Good advice tried to rep you.
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