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Old 08-03-2013, 05:02 PM
 
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So, what I'm hearing is that you'd rather live off of my (taxpayer) money, than make your own money.

Thanks. I do appreciate it.

(on the other hand, maybe you should be thanking me.)
I really don't want to live off unemployment. I was laid off from my job through no fault of my own; it's not like I quit or got fired for misconduct.

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There is nothing stopping you from accepting this position and continuing to look for another one that pays more.
This is a valid point and one that I will consider before I decide what to do.
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Old 08-03-2013, 05:02 PM
 
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FWIW I reposted this thread the other day in the Unemployment forum where I stated that the job was only a part-time position, with hours ranging from 20-29 hours per week, not the 35-40 I was looking for. Additionally, my previous job was a full-time position and paid more, at $10.39 per hour. So If I take this job and work the hours they'll give me, I'll pretty much be making what I am making collecting UI, give or take a few dollars.

Also, to be completely honest, this job is not one that I am particularly motivated to do. It's just, well, a job. It's not really in my area of expertise, so I would have to learn it from scratch, which would be fine if I had the drive and was interested in this particular field. I guess I could force myself to be interested maybe, but I don't know.
When you are earning your own money, you can get picky and worry about your "drive" and interests". When you are using my money, you have the obligation to accept any position you can get that is (in your own words) roughly the same amount of money. The taxpayers aren't giving you money so you can take your time and find your dream job.
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Old 08-03-2013, 05:05 PM
 
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That's in reference to federal funds, not the state funds. The state funds are still there, as far as I know.
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Old 08-03-2013, 05:09 PM
 
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Did they discuss raises? Generally you get a raise within 90 days and if you are a good worker, can usually apply for higher paid positions as they become open. While you start out low, you can have the ability to make more within a short amount of time. If you had been on UI for some time and this was the first real job offer, go for it. It's easier to find a job when you actually are working. Good luck.
I asked about raises, and they said you have to work there for one year before anything is considered. Also, I've only been on UI for two weeks, and this has been my one and only job offer. However, I totally agree that it is easier to find work while employed, which is a factor that is making me want to accept the job.
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Old 08-03-2013, 05:11 PM
 
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Having just gone through this fun let me give you some tips.

You are supposed to take whatever job you are offered. As mentioned that seems pretty ignorant if the wage is lower than UI payout. With all the gov. cutbacks there is almost no one to check on you unless you are a big fish that is really gaming the system. Look at the recent CA Medical scam they couldn't catch a convicted felon from Texas so they aren't going to go after the small guy.Find out what the maximum payout is. This will depend on your state and how bad UE is in the state.

If you do what I did which is diligently look for work that is a good fit and can't find when your UI runs out employers will often perceive you as some bum that was watching tv all day.

So you have to decide. Take your chances take UI that future employers may see you as lazy or take the first crappy job, be seen by prospective future employers as a hard working person and work at that ****ty job and hope for the best.

Things are bad and are slowly improving. Frankly either choice is a crap shoot. Now HM may rebut me and say well if the OP had take that job they would have been seen as a hard worker and it would have been easier to then look for a good job. Possibly, but the truth is you may take the first crap job and be stuck there 4 years wishing you had taken the max UI and tried to find a true good fit.
Thanks for the post! Really gives me something to consider.
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Old 08-03-2013, 05:19 PM
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Location: Tall Building down by the river
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FWIW I reposted this thread the other day in the Unemployment forum where I stated that the job was only a part-time position, with hours ranging from 20-29 hours per week, not the 35-40 I was looking for. Additionally, my previous job was a full-time position and paid more, at $10.39 per hour. So If I take this job and work the hours they'll give me, I'll pretty much be making what I am making collecting UI, give or take a few dollars.

Also, to be completely honest, this job is not one that I am particularly motivated to do. It's just, well, a job. It's not really in my area of expertise, so I would have to learn it from scratch, which would be fine if I had the drive and was interested in this particular field. I guess I could force myself to be interested maybe, but I don't know.

I would recommend finding a full-time job while receiving UI. Just be patient and it will happen. Don't fall into that part-time job trap
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Old 08-03-2013, 05:21 PM
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I asked about raises, and they said you have to work there for one year before anything is considered. Also, I've only been on UI for two weeks, and this has been my one and only job offer. However, I totally agree that it is easier to find work while employed, which is a factor that is making me want to accept the job.

It is way too early for you to accept any job, please have patience and find something better
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Old 08-03-2013, 05:23 PM
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Location: Tall Building down by the river
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I asked about raises, and they said you have to work there for one year before anything is considered. Also, I've only been on UI for two weeks, and this has been my one and only job offer. However, I totally agree that it is easier to find work while employed, which is a factor that is making me want to accept the job.

That is not a true fact. There are many people who find jobs while being unemployed for 6 months or more so don't think that it can't be done
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Old 08-03-2013, 05:29 PM
 
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When you are earning your own money, you can get picky and worry about your "drive" and interests". When you are using my money, you have the obligation to accept any position you can get that is (in your own words) roughly the same amount of money. The taxpayers aren't giving you money so you can take your time and find your dream job.
I respect your perspective. However, I didn't start this thread to get into a political debate. I started this thread (albeit in the wrong forum) for the sole purpose of gathering advice on whether or not I could turn down a job offer and still be able to collect unemployment while I continued my job search.

I think between this thread and the one I reposted in the Unemployment forum, I have received my answer.
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Old 08-03-2013, 05:30 PM
 
Location: California
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You are supposed to accept the position, by law, from what I understand.
Nope. Try again. There are SO many more variables in deciding if you are required to accept a position.
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