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Old 08-05-2013, 08:04 PM
 
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Most applications will ask if it's okay to contact. On my resume I always add "please call" by my supervisors' names, past & present.
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Old 08-05-2013, 09:18 PM
 
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you put your supervisors' names on your resume? that's kinda weird.
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Old 08-05-2013, 09:54 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Most applications will ask if it's okay to contact. On my resume I always add "please call" by my supervisors' names, past & present.
LOL! Why would you want to trust them in keeping your faith? I know from friends/co-workers where their references were contacted without their knowledge, just because the hiring department already had the information on hand and they didn't bother to inform the candidate.

Point to remember - as far as possible, do not include your current boss or co-workers as your reference (unless its your first job and you don't have similar previous experience). You can include one of your previous boss (if you left honorably and have good relationship) or some of your previous co-workers (again, if you had good relationship with them). NEVER, the current boss.
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Old 08-05-2013, 10:15 PM
 
Location: Corona the I.E.
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[quote=davenj08;30832035]LOL! Why would you want to trust them in keeping your faith? I know from friends/co-workers where their references were contacted without their knowledge, just because the hiring department already had the information on hand and they didn't bother to inform the candidate.

That is common the back channel reference check esp if you are staying same industry. I had it done to my former co-worker. I get an IM from my then AVP do you know so and so........yes........what were their sales like hunter or farmer.........sales good she was a farmer........ok thanks.

That was it no job for her. They wanted a hard core hunter type. I felt bad when I found out but honestly she wasn't a good fit for a hunting position.
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Old 08-05-2013, 10:27 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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LOL! Why would you want to trust them in keeping your faith? I know from friends/co-workers where their references were contacted without their knowledge, just because the hiring department already had the information on hand and they didn't bother to inform the candidate.

That is common the back channel reference check esp if you are staying same industry. I had it done to my former co-worker. I get an IM from my then AVP do you know so and so........yes........what were their sales like hunter or farmer.........sales good she was a farmer........ok thanks.

That was it no job for her. They wanted a hard core hunter type. I felt bad when I found out but honestly she wasn't a good fit for a hunting position.
Right, I agree. There is a lot of informal background checking both inside and across the industry. Especially with LinkedIn, they do have a full picture of where you have been and who you know. In the past, reference checks were to not just check how good you are at what you do but also to validate if you have actually done what you have mentioned in the resume. Now lying about where you have worked and for how long is out of question.
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Old 08-05-2013, 11:57 PM
 
Location: U.S.A., Earth
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It does indeed vary. I've had companies tell me within a week that they found someone else. I suspect they had a better candidate already, and their urgency in squeezing me in was to rule me out ASAP if I wasn't better, or to give me an offer if I ended up being the better candidate. For me though, 1 to 2 weeks has been the "the point". After that, if they really wanted me, I would've gotten an offer. However, these are NOT gov't jobs. Also, getting the offer and the job were 2 separate things, as I got a job offer, but had to wait for security checks to go through and pass (not that I wasn't expecting to fail, but still... it was the final hurdle to being a shoe-in, as this would let me start)
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Old 08-06-2013, 03:24 AM
 
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I have to tell this story:

My wife has a 4 year degree in Nursing and also has graduate degrees in health education. Her skills have always made her very marketable and she's never had trouble getting a job.

Years ago, a local company advertised a position for a nurse. They wanted someone onsite who could perform first aid for injured workers and possibly do some health education. She applied for the job and was called in for an interview. That seemed to go well and she was called back for an interview with a group of people. A week later, she was interviewed a third time, by the company manager and his top assistants. She was than instructed to meet with a local physician who did some contract work for the company.

By this time, about five weeks had gone by. We kept waiting for a call telling her she was hired. No call came.

At the end of about five to six weeks, someone from the company called indicating they wanted to see her for, yet, another interview. A regional representative from Denver was supposed to be present.

That's when she threw in the towel. She told the guy in personnel that "she had better things to do, than submit to a seemingly endless interview process". When she said this, she told me there was a dead silence on the other end of the phone for a minute. The guy tried to talk her into continuing this whole thing. She stood her ground and said "I can be hired for many other jobs". According to her the guy seemed to be in shock and couldn't believe someone would do this to him.

Its nice to have job skills that are in demand.
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Old 08-06-2013, 05:56 AM
 
Location: St Thomas, US Virgin Islands
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Wow that's crazy, I never heard of a current boss being called for a reference.
The OP clearly wrote, "At the second interview, they made it very clear they would need to speak to my current employer in order to move forward with a offer. I let my current boss know before they called and he is supportive of my taking the position as it is a step up in my career."
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Old 08-06-2013, 06:03 AM
 
Location: New York
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Since youre actively looking elsewhere, just contact them and say you got a better job offer somewhere else...but youre holding off a bit because theyre the offer you want/you want to know what all your options are before committing. See what they do.
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Old 08-06-2013, 06:13 AM
 
Location: St Thomas, US Virgin Islands
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Since youre actively looking elsewhere, just contact them and say you got a better job offer somewhere else...but youre holding off a bit because theyre the offer you want/you want to know what all your options are before committing. See what they do.
That's a very dangerous tactic to even consider.
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