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Old 08-07-2013, 12:07 PM
 
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You don't have the job, officially or not, until you receive and accept an offer of employment.

That's not to say that your conversations so far haven't been positive. It's certainly encouraging that the hiring manager is wanting to move things forward. If it is ultimately her decision and you are the person she wants, then an offer will probably come your way.

It's possible that she decided to put off meeting with the others until after she gets back from vacation. Or maybe she just got busy and didn't have time to set it up beforehand.

I'd recommend letting her enjoy her vacation, and contact her next week when she is supposed to be back.
I don't think the OP should contact her again. He already sent two follow up emails, his one on 8/1 and than again on 8/6(asking if anything else was needed by him) which went unanswered.

At this point wait to hear from them but keep looking. But I think if he contacts her again without getting any response from her to his other emails he will come off as a pest.

Hopefully she wasn't giving him a line of bull in the 7/31 email and they just move slow, but I think him contacting her again will not be viewed favorably. The ball is in their court in this situation.
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Old 08-07-2013, 12:08 PM
 
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Just continue your job search. I would also touch base with her again after she's had time to get back from vacation - wait at least two days to let her catch up on everything she's missed. You don't want to be too pushy.
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Old 08-07-2013, 12:21 PM
YAZ
 
Location: Phoenix,AZ
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Always remember my story:

Not only did I have a start date......

1. Pay was negotiated and approved.

2. W-4 signed off.

3. Background & references checked along with I-9 form.

4. 401(k) contribution set.

I had put my notice in to my current employer and here it is Thursday night (I'm supposed to start the following Monday)......

and there's a message on my answering machine when I get home.

"It's important that you call me right away."

They postponed hiring for this position until the next fiscal year.

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Old 08-07-2013, 12:24 PM
 
Location: San Francisco Bay Area
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If you don't have an offer letter, there's no job offer, even if it's implied.

I once had a verbal offer after 4 interviews (salary offer, verbal offer from manager, etc) and the department reorganized and I ended up not getting the position.

Keep job hunting, something will come up (if this does not come through) when you least expect it.

Good luck.
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Old 08-07-2013, 12:25 PM
 
Location: San Francisco Bay Area
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That really is bad.

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Always remember my story:

Not only did I have a start date......

1. Pay was negotiated and approved.

2. W-4 signed off.

3. Background & references checked along with I-9 form.

4. 401(k) contribution set.

I had put my notice in to my current employer and here it is Thursday night (I'm supposed to start the following Monday)......

and there's a message on my answering machine when I get home.

"It's important that you call me right away."

They postponed hiring for this position until the next fiscal year.

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Old 08-07-2013, 12:35 PM
 
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I really appreciate all of your responses thus far.

I've received an email with 'job postings' made by this institution - do you guys advise that I apply, or wait to apply? There are a couple that are of interest. Again, as previously mentioned, the institution is huge, but you never know who's talking to who...

Understandably so, I do not have anything in formal writing, so if the director of the department I've already interviewed with finds out I applied to another position in the institution, it shouldn't be viewed as a slight; however, I don't want it to potentially jeopardize the job...
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Old 08-07-2013, 12:40 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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If it were me, I'd take the small risk and apply to the other jobs.
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Old 08-07-2013, 12:47 PM
 
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i'd apply, for sure. it's totally reasonable to keep applying for jobs when you haven't been offered one yet. a hiring manager would have to be pretty cuckoo to hold that against you.

YAZ, that is terrible! i might be wrong, but i think you might actually have grounds for a lawsuit there, if you lost income as a result. i waited for a written offer and a start date from my current employer before giving notice at my last one, but you seriously never know what's going to happen until you actually start.
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Old 08-07-2013, 12:59 PM
 
Location: Philippines
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I think there's no harm on applying and going to other interviews. The more job offers, the merrier. This way, you can have a lot of options.
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Old 08-07-2013, 01:57 PM
 
Location: Prince Georges County, MD (formerly Long Island, NY)
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Always remember my story:

Not only did I have a start date......

1. Pay was negotiated and approved.

2. W-4 signed off.

3. Background & references checked along with I-9 form.

4. 401(k) contribution set.

I had put my notice in to my current employer and here it is Thursday night (I'm supposed to start the following Monday)......

and there's a message on my answering machine when I get home.

"It's important that you call me right away."

They postponed hiring for this position until the next fiscal year.

That is absolutely terrible! The things companies do these days...

OP, moving forward just means going into the next phase of interviewing-- I wouldn't interpret that as them wanting to hire you. Go ahead and apply for the other positions, HR people flake sometimes (happened to me earlier this summer-- I had a thread about that).
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