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Old 08-13-2013, 02:58 PM
 
Location: St Louis, MO
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or... they could ask your former employer(s). or ask you for your w2 or your most recent pay advice. they don't have to pull your tax records to verify your pay.
Hence why I say that you are in trouble once they do ask for one. That tightens them up to take serious action against you. (e.g. breach of contract)
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Old 08-13-2013, 03:11 PM
 
Location: Nassau, Long Island, NY
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You are probably fine though I am surprised the job application did not force you to disclose salary. I have no problem fibbing on salary history as I know companies will use it to lowball you. W-2's and paystubs can be easily faked with a scanner and any basic editing software.
Reminds me of a story. My DH knows a sales manager who lost 2 salespersons to a competing company. Suddenly he gets a call from the sales manager who hired them, steaming mad, saying, don't give them back their jobs. (He had no intention of doing so anyway but asked why.) Seems they had done electronic trickery as above to make it look like they were way bigger producers than they were. In reality they were average. However, the new company always did background checks on everyone including past wages earned, but people are brought on board before it is completed. So even though someone has to show what they earned beforehand, it still doesn't mean the company won't check for itself.
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Old 08-13-2013, 03:36 PM
 
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Hence why I say that you are in trouble once they do ask for one. That tightens them up to take serious action against you. (e.g. breach of contract)
oh ok, i see where you're coming from. but really, you're in trouble if they go to verify your income by conventional means too. that can mean an offer being revoked or getting fired. they don't have to build a court case against you to do that.
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Old 08-13-2013, 03:43 PM
 
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Most of the time people don't worry about checking your salary but they do worry about the experience you said you had and how well you performed. That's what they'll probably ask. They are paying you based on what they think you're worth, not what the previous employer paid. You left that job, so if you're worth it, they shouldn't care about trying to do what the previous employer did. If they do ask and find out, you probably are not going to get fired if you're performing well at your job, but you may have an uncomfortable conversation.
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Old 08-13-2013, 04:09 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Totally wrong. These days, compensation is one of the FEW things former employers will say about a former employee. My employer has the following policy. They will only say:

Last job title, dates of employment, last compensation.

That is pretty typical of large companies these days and they are doing it to protect themselves from liability. Liability comes in when a company expresses a negative opinion of the employee.
^^this. We have the same policy.

And prior salary does factor into what a candidate is offered, so lying about it can have consequences. Hopefully for the OP, he skirts through this but lying about salary is not a good idea.
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Old 08-13-2013, 04:16 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Similar request actually happened to me once on a job. I was hired, got the offer letter, etc., etc. Before the first day, I got an email saying what to bring the first day (driver's license, SS card, etc.). They also wanted me to bring my last paystub from my last job. If I had lied about my salary, I would have been caught.
^^ and this. I have also been asked to provide proof in the form of a pay stub, W2 or offer letter from a prior employer. This was requested by a background investigation firm that couldn't get a response from the ex employer. And falsifying these documents with a scanner and software is a really really bad idea.
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Old 08-13-2013, 04:45 PM
 
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Totally wrong. These days, compensation is one of the FEW things former employers will say about a former employee. My employer has the following policy. They will only say:

Last job title, dates of employment, last compensation.

That is pretty typical of large companies these days and they are doing it to protect themselves from liability. Liability comes in when a company expresses a negative opinion of the employee.
Huh?
For those who have asked, no there is no law.
But god forbid anyone who discloses ANYTHING about an employee and it turns out to be even slightly inaccurate. Compensation being one of the most delicate. Base, salary, bonus, overtime, incentives, stock compensation, etc. all go into what YOU might say, and what I Might say.

So, yes, folks go with "they worked here from x to x." If I found out that my HR department was giving out salary/compensation info (it is proprietary, after all) heads would roll. In no uncertain terms.
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Old 08-13-2013, 04:49 PM
 
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employers are not allowed to give out salary info. Potential employers are only allowed to ask if you worked there and the dates.
not true
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Old 08-13-2013, 04:59 PM
 
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You know what I think? It should be illegal for employers to base their hiring decisions and salary based on credit history, credit score and previous salary.

That way, the applicant can sue if he is rejected or given a low salary based on his last job.
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Old 08-13-2013, 05:12 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Huh?
For those who have asked, no there is no law.
But god forbid anyone who discloses ANYTHING about an employee and it turns out to be even slightly inaccurate. Compensation being one of the most delicate. Base, salary, bonus, overtime, incentives, stock compensation, etc. all go into what YOU might say, and what I Might say.

So, yes, folks go with "they worked here from x to x." If I found out that my HR department was giving out salary/compensation info (it is proprietary, after all) heads would roll. In no uncertain terms.
Well unless you are a C-level executive and know for certain your company isn't doing this you're in for a big shock.

Google "The Work Number", brought to you by that pinnacle of accuracy and benevolence, Equifax. Or just visit www.theworknumber.com. It should scare the hell out of you.
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