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Old 12-05-2013, 03:04 PM
 
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Tru dat. Just ask the person about it. They may have just made a mistake. Let he/she who is without workplace sin walk out the door with her.
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Old 12-05-2013, 03:10 PM
 
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Yes, the candidate is interviewing for the "Sr" position. The red flag came up when they said "I'm already doing the job, I just want the title" but the candidate already had the title according to their resume.

Thanks for the replies so far. I am going to check references either way.
That statement by the candidate would bother me more. They are applying for Sr X position but have listed that already are Sr X?

That's just arrogant. He/She may have the skill for the job, but they sound like they have an attitude.
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Old 12-05-2013, 03:28 PM
 
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If the candidate is going to lie about a relatively small issue, how will he/she behave when faced with the opportunity to gain some sort of advantage by lying about a large issue? What happens when the lie about that large issue adversely affects the company?
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Old 12-05-2013, 03:35 PM
 
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Why don't you ask them why they put Sr. on the resume instead of overreacting like the toolbox you are? Is this what this country has turned into? Instead of approaching the actual person in question you slink around like a snake in the grass trying to find a gotchya?

You are an authoritive figure? Act like one. Face to face ask him. Are you scared?
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Old 12-05-2013, 04:13 PM
 
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Hmm, iffy. I'm of two minds about that. In my lengthy experience of supervising I certainly thought of some staff as senior (experience, knowledge, productivity) in their positions even though there was no such title. But to proclaim yourself as such would make me worry about the attitude of the candidate. I agree that asking will flush out the truth and give you a better idea of that person's personality. Arrogant, cocky, or honest mistake?
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Old 12-05-2013, 04:19 PM
 
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Why don't you ask them why they put Sr. on the resume instead of overreacting like the toolbox you are? Is this what this country has turned into? Instead of approaching the actual person in question you slink around like a snake in the grass trying to find a gotchya?

You are an authoritive figure? Act like one. Face to face ask him. Are you scared?
You need to learn how to read.
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Old 12-05-2013, 04:22 PM
 
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Yes, the candidate is interviewing for the "Sr" position. The red flag came up when they said "I'm already doing the job, I just want the title" but the candidate already had the title according to their resume.

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Sounds like the candidate is already DOING the job of Senior, so put the job title that they are doing. It's very common for people to be doing the work of a position that is one or two levels higher than their current job title.

I have a close friend that is doing the job of a higher level manager than their current job title reflects. He/she was supposed to get a promotion to the new position but some political stuff occurred. So they kept the old title in place and gave the increased salary for the new position as well as all of the responsibilities of the new position. So they really are doing all the work/responsibilities of the higher level position.

Back to resumes.....It is very common to modify the job title on the resume so it explains your REAL job that you are doing. I took training on resume writing done by a very large training/HR company...they train thousands and thousands of people each year on resume writing. In their training, they suggested to modify the job title on your resume to match the REAL job you are doing. They said companies want to know what you really are doing if it conflicts with your real title.

IMO, your candidate already told you the truth by saying" I'm already doing the job(senior), I just want the title". This means the person isn't hiding something from you....he/she was straight up about it in the interview.

I wouldn't toss out this candidate over the "senior" issue on the title, especially in light of the fact that the candidate was truthful in discussions with you about not having the title.

Here is a link about job titles on resumes Don't Get Creative With Job Titles in Your Resume - Dice News

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Old 12-05-2013, 05:27 PM
 
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If the candidate is going to lie about a relatively small issue, how will he/she behave when faced with the opportunity to gain some sort of advantage by lying about a large issue? What happens when the lie about that large issue adversely affects the company?
You're right. People never tell little lies. And everyone who even tells a small lie always ends up becoming a huge liar---liars that destroy companies single-handedly! And we all know employers never lie.

OP---you said this popped up as a red flag during the interview when he/she said they wanted the title. I'm not sure why you didn't ask them to clarify then and there. Just talk to the boss and see what the deal is.
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Old 12-05-2013, 06:13 PM
 
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Why don't you ask them why they put Sr. on the resume instead of overreacting like the toolbox you are? Is this what this country has turned into? Instead of approaching the actual person in question you slink around like a snake in the grass trying to find a gotchya?

You are an authoritive figure? Act like one. Face to face ask him. Are you scared?
Excuse me? Since reading comprehension doesn't appear to be your strong suit, let me put it another way (I will try not to use too many big words here). If I had an issue with it, the candidate wouldn't have made it to the second round interview.

Now please leave my thread and let the adults continue our conversation.

There's always one.
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Old 12-05-2013, 06:24 PM
 
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I would find out, then ask the candidate directly.
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