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Old 12-15-2013, 01:16 AM
 
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Well, they shouldn't waste a candidate's time on a futile interview that will end up nowhere. It also wastes the company's time as well and in my experience, I have had to delay some of my work because some of my coworkers weren't available since they were too busy interviewing candidates they had no intention of hiring.
Don't blame the corporation, blame the U.S. government that has made rules that require them to open up the job like it was available, then after going through the hoops to meet the government regulations they move someone from another part of the company or even from the same department to take the job.

It has become a game, to meet government regulations on hiring. Bring in and interview some people, and then you can say the person within the company is the best qualified of all applicants.
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Old 12-15-2013, 05:21 AM
 
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How is it practice or how is it valuable if the candidate is getting absolutely no worthwhile feedback?
A few months ago, I went on my first interview in 2 years. I was terrible and I knew it. I was a bit nervous and forgot the answers to industry related interview questions in a group interview. It was great practice!

At the next interview for a Fortune 500 corporate job, the industry related questions were even more difficult. I was less nervous, so I breezed through the questions. I made to the 2nd round and had a group interview, it was even more challenging.

I had applied for an intermediate position. When HR called me back, they offered the senior level position with higher pay.

Practice makes perfect.

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Old 12-15-2013, 06:13 AM
 
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Before I go any further, I want to mention that I work for a gigantic non government organization that I am sure 99% of all Americans have heard of. I recently had a conversation with my coworkers about jobs and interviews. These coworkers of mine work often with hiring managers and often know what is going on during the job interview and etc. They told me that in many job interviews that were conducted that there was absolutely no intention to hire anyone they interviewed no matter how well the candidate performed in the interview or how strong the candidate's resume was. The hiring managers often already chose a person before the process began and were only conducting interviews because it was mandated by the organization and the government. Essentially, it was like the Rooney Rule only it applies to everyone not just minorities. I told them that this is quite cruel to the candidates and they agreed although they said there is nothing they can do about it.

In any case, to people who have been suffering from job rejections, don't always assume it is due to a bad interview or resume; in many cases it is because the hiring manager simply already chose someone before the job hiring process began.


Impressions of coworkers may be incorrect. I mean I've worked for Nestle, Campbells, Lilly, and now work for a 10 billion dollar org. . .

I haven't seen an example of the above. Candidates may have little chance but are granted an interview.. .but they always have a chance. There is something interesting and you want to talk to the person/etc


If the above is true, its the corporations insane interpretation of rules/regulations. Your working with a bunch of numbskulls
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Old 12-15-2013, 07:41 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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Of course they know who they want to promote. Management is supposed to be evaluating their employees' performance and know what everyone can do.

If they didn't know who they wanted to promote, they should be fired for not doing their job.

If regulations, governmental or company, require interviews, they will still do them. That's not in their control- but you shouldn't be surprised.
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Old 12-15-2013, 07:59 AM
 
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What's the big deal? Every single interview is a crap shoot regardless if the company already has a candidate in mind.

If it wasn't an internal candidate, it could have been an external candidate they interviewed a day earlier.

In any case, the bottom line is the same. You didn't get the job.
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Old 12-15-2013, 08:54 AM
 
Location: Loudon, TN
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Many companies/agencies have hiring requirements form HR that are meant to make hiring "fair", so they HAVE to interview at least a certain number of candidates before making a selection. I have been on both sides of these interviews, as the person who WILL get the job, and the person that WON'T. It's just how the game is played.
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Old 12-15-2013, 09:39 AM
 
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Before I go any further, I want to mention that I work for a gigantic non government organization that I am sure 99% of all Americans have heard of. I recently had a conversation with my coworkers about jobs and interviews. These coworkers of mine work often with hiring managers and often know what is going on during the job interview and etc. They told me that in many job interviews that were conducted that there was absolutely no intention to hire anyone they interviewed no matter how well the candidate performed in the interview or how strong the candidate's resume was. The hiring managers often already chose a person before the process began and were only conducting interviews because it was mandated by the organization and the government. Essentially, it was like the Rooney Rule only it applies to everyone not just minorities. I told them that this is quite cruel to the candidates and they agreed although they said there is nothing they can do about it.

In any case, to people who have been suffering from job rejections, don't always assume it is due to a bad interview or resume; in many cases it is because the hiring manager simply already chose someone before the job hiring process began.
Of course. I work for the state, and that's exactly how it is. For example, I work in the same place as Jill Biden - I wonder how many people interviewed for her job.
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Old 12-15-2013, 10:16 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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Before I go any further, I want to mention that I work for a gigantic non government organization that I am sure 99% of all Americans have heard of. I recently had a conversation with my coworkers about jobs and interviews. These coworkers of mine work often with hiring managers and often know what is going on during the job interview and etc. They told me that in many job interviews that were conducted that there was absolutely no intention to hire anyone they interviewed no matter how well the candidate performed in the interview or how strong the candidate's resume was. The hiring managers often already chose a person before the process began and were only conducting interviews because it was mandated by the organization and the government. Essentially, it was like the Rooney Rule only it applies to everyone not just minorities. I told them that this is quite cruel to the candidates and they agreed although they said there is nothing they can do about it.

In any case, to people who have been suffering from job rejections, don't always assume it is due to a bad interview or resume; in many cases it is because the hiring manager simply already chose someone before the job hiring process began.
It's sad really. At my old job I was being promoted but since this was a new position it had to be opened internally for 5 days. Every applicant who met the basic requirements had to be interviewed. So my boss went through the motions and interviewed an internal candidate. Sadly it was the same guy I beat out for the job a year ago before the promotion.

I can imagine companies have policies that open up positions to internal and external even though a candidate has already been identified, wasting everybody's time.
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Old 12-15-2013, 10:18 AM
 
Location: NJ
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How is it practice or how is it valuable if the candidate is getting absolutely no worthwhile feedback?
Most people don't get feedback after an interview. That doesn't mean it isn't good practice.
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Old 12-15-2013, 10:19 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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Impressions of coworkers may be incorrect. I mean I've worked for Nestle, Campbells, Lilly, and now work for a 10 billion dollar org. . .

I haven't seen an example of the above. Candidates may have little chance but are granted an interview.. .but they always have a chance. There is something interesting and you want to talk to the person/etc


If the above is true, its the corporations insane interpretation of rules/regulations. Your working with a bunch of numbskulls
It's not insane. If a company fills jobs without an opening up to a wide pool and you end up with mostly White male employees. The EEOC will come on you like a ton of bricks. Companies have to be careful what prescreening tests they use to since IQ tests are illegal.
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