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Old 12-23-2013, 02:29 AM
 
Location: Myrtle Creek, Oregon
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My local court system offers free criminal background checks online. It only includes data from my state, but with the correct SSN it is 100% accurate and includes any convictions going back years.
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Old 12-23-2013, 10:11 AM
 
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Yep. And undoubtedly potential employers can read his posts here under all his various user names
Explain how they could.
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Old 12-23-2013, 08:13 PM
 
Location: Princeton
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The op can pay the OPM of US Govt to do a T/S (SCI) Full scope background check all the way through, but then it would cost him $9500.00 only to learn he did NOT get his clearance, lol...
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Old 12-23-2013, 09:34 PM
 
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Are these data gathering services available to the general public?
Yes they are available to the public because the public is their main customers. But for every 1 excellent company, their are 100's of skank companies as you found out. Companies ike USSearch and Intelius are companies that set certain limits on what they will gather and what verification of information is used. Many others are tru to their name and just gather data.

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Also, what do they provide beyond what many believe is possible? Can you give an example?
The best way to explain this is on how they obtain the data. You contact the less reputable company and they ask for information from you. They say the more you give, the better the search (in reality you have just provided them with information on you that is used to cross reference other files or start a file). They find a data file on you from some company you purchased something from who sold your info to them. But the email is a different one so now they have another email to cross reference to you. In searching files the computer pulls up some obscure post where you listed that email for contact and now they cross reference that user name to you.

This goes on and on to include some place where your cell phone number is known and if using a smartphone, all your internet searches or websites visited is included in the report. And that old email or phone number pops up on a resume you submitted in response to a fake data broker ad on craigslist and they now have your employment history including that fake or embellished job you had on it. With the employment info they scour their files for those companies to see if anything concerning you (or maybe you) is mentioned. So those brief companies mention of you being promoted and how you volunteer with some group is tied to you.

But wait, that's not all. Remember when a friend used your address to have some package shipped to them so they can avoid taxes, now that person is attached to your file. Letís hope you never files for a bail on someone, friend or family, because that info will appear. As they strip away or add information it gives them a new line to follow. They end up with forum user names, Facebook information, tweets, they get travel info from airlines and cruise companies. Magazine subscriptions. They may even know what rebates you applied for or what company you requested information from.

There are millions of files bought and sold each year containing all sorts of information. Individually they are just those interested in something, but in the hands of a data broker, itís all sorted cross reference and compiled into a neat book on who you are. Also because they are not regulated, it may also include information believed to have been you but really isn't. The only saving grace is that your social security number shouldnít be in anyone's hand from these available databases unless YOU gave it out for distribution. The lack of a SSAN is why identity theft from this information isnít that easy (and yes when you signed you signed up for all those free birthday club specials, you gave enough here and there for them to compile your birthday.)
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Old 12-23-2013, 09:42 PM
 
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Explain how they could.
Go up to "search" above.

Enter your first name.
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Old 12-23-2013, 09:57 PM
 
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The best way to explain this is on how they obtain the data. You contact the less reputable company and they ask for information from you. They say the more you give, the better the search (in reality you have just provided them with information on you that is used to cross reference other files or start a file). They find a data file on you from some company you purchased something from who sold your info to them. But the email is a different one so now they have another email to cross reference to you. In searching files the computer pulls up some obscure post where you listed that email for contact and now they cross reference that user name to you.

This goes on and on to include some place where your cell phone number is known and if using a smartphone, all your internet searches or websites visited is included in the report. And that old email or phone number pops up on a resume you submitted in response to a fake data broker ad on craigslist and they now have your employment history including that fake or embellished job you had on it. With the employment info they scour their files for those companies to see if anything concerning you (or maybe you) is mentioned. So those brief companies mention of you being promoted and how you volunteer with some group is tied to you.

But wait, that's not all. Remember when a friend used your address to have some package shipped to them so they can avoid taxes, now that person is attached to your file. Letís hope you never files for a bail on someone, friend or family, because that info will appear. As they strip away or add information it gives them a new line to follow. They end up with forum user names, Facebook information, tweets, they get travel info from airlines and cruise companies. Magazine subscriptions. They may even know what rebates you applied for or what company you requested information from.

There are millions of files bought and sold each year containing all sorts of information. Individually they are just those interested in something, but in the hands of a data broker, itís all sorted cross reference and compiled into a neat book on who you are. Also because they are not regulated, it may also include information believed to have been you but really isn't. The only saving grace is that your social security number shouldnít be in anyone's hand from these available databases unless YOU gave it out for distribution. The lack of a SSAN is why identity theft from this information isnít that easy (and yes when you signed you signed up for all those free birthday club specials, you gave enough here and there for them to compile your birthday.)
If it's common practice for employers to do that, then how does anyone get a job these days? I Googled the handle of my friend's email addresses and found a bunch of right-wing posts he has made on Youtube and on news sites, yet he has a good job. I know people who post ridiculously controversial stuff on Facebook all the time, yet are gainfully employed.
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Old 12-23-2013, 10:38 PM
 
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If it's common practice for employers to do that, then how does anyone get a job these days? I Googled the handle of my friend's email addresses and found a bunch of right-wing posts he has made on Youtube and on news sites, yet he has a good job. I know people who post ridiculously controversial stuff on Facebook all the time, yet are gainfully employed.
Because many employers won't do it and other will. Who knows why and what and who.... It could take years before a compay ventures into the dark corners of using a data broker. Others may know but wit until a perfectly legitimate excuse is available to dump someone. How many times have we heard someone being let go due to downsizing, work shortage, realignment, or other legitimate reason and they find out someone was hired to do the same thing they were doing?

Because this is relativly new and cost were once high, the number of companies getting their toes wet in the data mining waters is starting to increase. They may not use it on everyone, but they may do some checking on some applicants. Since they are not going to tell you what they found out, you are just one of those "another candidate was hired."
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Old 12-23-2013, 10:44 PM
 
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If it's common practice for employers to do that, then how does anyone get a job these days? I Googled the handle of my friend's email addresses and found a bunch of right-wing posts he has made on Youtube and on news sites, yet he has a good job. I know people who post ridiculously controversial stuff on Facebook all the time, yet are gainfully employed.
Could be hired by like-minded people.
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Old 12-25-2013, 12:27 AM
 
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I get the data mining stuff and that's some scary stuff but Im most concerned about employers finding about the jobs that I MIGHT have had for one or two days and omit them from applications or resumes. How dose Equifax get their payroll data? I really doubt all my jobs are listed on that credit report and its only based on jobs you admitted on credit apps. In my case my past employment history would be very bare.

And to the poster who said this thread has been done before, so what. Almost EVERY thread has been done before. With that logic we might as well lock up citydata and make it an archive only site. The reason people start the same threads is because someone might have new info on the subject or we might have someone new to citydata with better advice on the subject. If you don't like repetitive threads then don't participate in them.Its no skin off your back. But don't expect me and others to bow to your wishes and dig up some old similar thread that's a mile long and filled with useless small talk, fights and offtopic info.
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